As i was debating and explaining with Muslims in this Islam vs Christianity debate i began to realize we are of 2 different worlds in ways of thinking and mentality which do not sync together.
Perhaps it is how each others religion has brought us up. It is hard to say they are closed minded
but yet what is that they are stubborn in understanding why we interpret as such the bible.
They do not except any explanations we give since they expect we interpret the bible like how
they interpret the Quran. The mentality. I gave them the link of Newadvent.org but i guess the English used is to high and long winded for them to read and understand. (its difficult for me too). Anyway the Christians always loose. Never saw a battle we won haha.
I am sure u know how they attack the Bible by basically saying its the most corrupted book ever
written and they are really good at using it against us exploiting its discrepancies. This such attack
on the Christian should be taken seriously as there are many who lack of faith and i feel many will fall
once they have been brainwashed. (not just becoming Muslim but the mere action of being a laps)
Why such an action from them? We too i feel are at fault. Unfortunately we have many versions of the bible and 2 major factions the protestants and Catholics and also through their sharing the way evangelism and conversion takes place which i think is more to the protestants (more vigorous). We have place the threat and the stepping stone for them to step on us. Secondly is our lack in understading the bible and its contents. I do not know if Catholics know that there are many differences and contradcitions in the bible as well as many other 'holes' in it (as said by the Muslims) (I knew all this so
i claim safety). When they know they feel that they have been fooled all this while and laps. Besides
building the faith i think we need to be made aware of this 'holes' in the bible so next time when some one points it out we would be like so what??. We need awareness, knowledge and faith in our cathechism to keep us in Christianity.
I also think that the Church should get some feedback from students about cathechism.
I do not know but for me by reading those verses in Job and John as pretty straight forward. They explanation suffice but they are stubborn. They really know how to twist and split ends of hairs and shut us up. Anyway the devil is smart. I shall post this up but they wont keep quite which i wont bother already.
I also wonder why the like to use Christianity is against Islam when US and other white man country attacks a Muslim country. Well for me its all in the devils game and as long as humans fuel the ideas of the devil it will exploit them and as usual finds the best enemy to go against us. Sounds poietic haha.
Wednesday, December 9, 2009
Friday, October 23, 2009
Followers @@@@@?
There are those who lay the foundation....leaders....trend setters.....and of cos they would have their followers. But followers there are those who share the idea of the leader...their objectives, aims, vision and mission. And there are those who follow because of wanting a hitch hike on the fame that come with it. Some follow the crowd (majority) but have some sort of idea and there are those who are blind followers (majoirty). oh yah some are just those who try to fit into some group.
Now these followers also have followers. So if the 1st degree follower is a blind follower how would be the 2nd degree follower?? As time and generations of blind followers increase the reason and rationality, mission, vision etc etc are lost. What is left is just the superficial identity of that path they follow.
Example - those some people who are depressed go into that Gothic black way and they feel happy doing it (they think so ... this is the source) Those who follow blindly follow their doings like dressing like them, acting like them but then they are not depressed people. They would say that they are just expressing their freedom of wearing cloths. Then they defend not to judge the book by the cover. True but what impression are you giving to society of yourself. We are not living and cannot live an individualistic life - human are defined as communal beings and there are reasons to come up with such a definition so no matter what you do will give a reflection of yourself. Do you want people to think you are bad or good? 1st impression counts although u can say not to judge. There is no judging here. An impression is not a judgment but a mere inference or hypothesis on which further experiments are done only then one will judge but we should notlah judge. We should instead learn to except them for who they are and try to work with them and with God's grace they might follow ur good works if you r good. They might get influenced by your goodness.
Anyway when we want to follow somebody or something try to learn its foundation and not follow blindly. This is just one example there are many complex example that can be due to this blind following with the greatest being extremism and terrorism.
Now these followers also have followers. So if the 1st degree follower is a blind follower how would be the 2nd degree follower?? As time and generations of blind followers increase the reason and rationality, mission, vision etc etc are lost. What is left is just the superficial identity of that path they follow.
Example - those some people who are depressed go into that Gothic black way and they feel happy doing it (they think so ... this is the source) Those who follow blindly follow their doings like dressing like them, acting like them but then they are not depressed people. They would say that they are just expressing their freedom of wearing cloths. Then they defend not to judge the book by the cover. True but what impression are you giving to society of yourself. We are not living and cannot live an individualistic life - human are defined as communal beings and there are reasons to come up with such a definition so no matter what you do will give a reflection of yourself. Do you want people to think you are bad or good? 1st impression counts although u can say not to judge. There is no judging here. An impression is not a judgment but a mere inference or hypothesis on which further experiments are done only then one will judge but we should notlah judge. We should instead learn to except them for who they are and try to work with them and with God's grace they might follow ur good works if you r good. They might get influenced by your goodness.
Anyway when we want to follow somebody or something try to learn its foundation and not follow blindly. This is just one example there are many complex example that can be due to this blind following with the greatest being extremism and terrorism.
Friday, October 16, 2009
We R Famili!!
The catholic church is one big entity/organisation etc etc watever u wanna call it but the general idea is that is simply massive. Of cos not all of its followers will agree 100% to ALL the teachings about Christ which is passed onto us through them. Therefor definitely there wud arise disagreements and fights. But what do we do when we are faced in such a situation? Do we run and hide? play dumb? fight and destroy? fight and win? compromise? come to an understanding? What do we do? Break away and set up our own church?
Now since is may be quite hard to comprehend the whole church into our minds lets look deep into one of the church concept of family. In a family got father mother sister brother and so on... . Do we fight? yes we do. What happens after the fight? Do we run away from home? (some do but what happens to them later........?) Do we say sorry, follow, come into terms?
Ideally there is compromise - we come into terms, we look for ways to be able to understand each other and thus be able to work together in the end despite the dispute.
Same thing goes for the church. If the church does something we feel its wrong there is no harm to point in out, fight for what is right and go on but how long do we continue to fight? Instead of pushing and campaigning of ones thought of what and how sumthing should be done we need to instead come into an understanding. The intention should be there to safe the church from further divide and shame. We need to look into how we can work together. We cant continue fighting or break away for just a misunderstanding or disagreement. Perhaps when something does not go the right way in the beginging with u on it there is always the possibility for it to become better. But what happens when u who are a beacon of change break away. Would it not come worse? and if it does then u have a hand in making it become worse.
This is on our part - for the other party's part they should also listen, understand and make way for the new ideas and suggestions especially of those who are at the front lines.
So guys fight for away where we can work together. Give and take. Diplomacy, compromise, understand then we grow even if it is slow. Better than fighting and not growing at all.
Now since is may be quite hard to comprehend the whole church into our minds lets look deep into one of the church concept of family. In a family got father mother sister brother and so on... . Do we fight? yes we do. What happens after the fight? Do we run away from home? (some do but what happens to them later........?) Do we say sorry, follow, come into terms?
Ideally there is compromise - we come into terms, we look for ways to be able to understand each other and thus be able to work together in the end despite the dispute.
Same thing goes for the church. If the church does something we feel its wrong there is no harm to point in out, fight for what is right and go on but how long do we continue to fight? Instead of pushing and campaigning of ones thought of what and how sumthing should be done we need to instead come into an understanding. The intention should be there to safe the church from further divide and shame. We need to look into how we can work together. We cant continue fighting or break away for just a misunderstanding or disagreement. Perhaps when something does not go the right way in the beginging with u on it there is always the possibility for it to become better. But what happens when u who are a beacon of change break away. Would it not come worse? and if it does then u have a hand in making it become worse.
This is on our part - for the other party's part they should also listen, understand and make way for the new ideas and suggestions especially of those who are at the front lines.
So guys fight for away where we can work together. Give and take. Diplomacy, compromise, understand then we grow even if it is slow. Better than fighting and not growing at all.
FAITH EMPOWERMENT
Theme Proposal for Inter Campus Gathering 2011
“Faith Empowerment”
Introduction
I joined 2 ICGs before and the themes that were chosen were consistent with the times and I manage to decipher a flow in the ideas from the both, from Our faith our freedom to Our religion the in thing. We have first learnt of choice and freewill to worship any faith and God (Christianity for us) and to defend that choice we have made. Then we have been enlightened to know that following religion and putting it as part of our lives as ok and a priority, nothing to be ashamed and feared off. Now having known of the freedom of choice and our choice of Jesus is the In thing what now? We now need the drive to put the faith into action and thus need the drive to do so in the right way according to what Jesus as though us. We also need to be strong on our fundamental basic foundation of our faith of Christianity being strong, ‘patriotic’, loyal and proud of it. Having strong basics will ensure our faith will stand strong.
Prologue
We are Christians. We are Catholics. We have faith in Jesus Christ. How do we put it into action? What does Jesus wants us to do? What are the teachings of Christ and of his mission of us in this world? Catholics nowadays do not know how to be Catholics. The mindset and mentality that catechism has thought us drifts away after confirmation and faith becomes something personal so much so it becomes a selfish tool. God is only to oneself and in the end we began to follow the God we made but not the God who made us. God is only there to answer our prayers and to do so we must continue to worship Him??? Is God a Master and are we his slaves? How do we bring back the sheep back to right camp? How do we become correct Catholics, but first we need to know what does it mean to become a catholic. Being a catholic and the essence of its fundamental believe is the triad of God Self and Community. Now the focus of community is eroding as people become more selfish and individualistic succumbing to the earthly wimps of materialism and so on. No though many claim to have Jesus in them but are they really following what Jesus wants us to do following His will? Jesus came down to serve and not to be served. He died for us, he lived for us. He came for all of us as he lived at his time with the community. So we too need to follow his reason for his coming, to serve. Many Catholics questions sometimes why is the church busy fighting for justice and peace, playing with politics, ‘busy bodying’ into every issue and they also question if all this part of the bible and the teachings of Jesus. Furthermore they say that the church is old fashion and outdated and is becoming redundant. Is it so? The church does not bow down to the pressures of society following its wimps and fancies but upholds Christ ways. Catholics say yes to uphold morality, justice and peace, equality, basically maintaining a civilization and we need to prove it to them and to ourselves too.
Objectives
To instill the concept of God Self and Community as being a Catholic
To empower students to put their faith into action
To call students to follow Jesus purpose of his coming
To prove Jesus ‘approval’ of our actions as being part of a community.
To make aware of the challenges the church has faced in the past 2009 years
To instill respect and trust to the church Jesus built on Peter.
Vision
Students empowered by Christ putting His works into action through us.
Mission
To reach out to the poor and needy
To be the voice for the oppressed and marginalized
To uphold justice and peace
To follow morals and values in daily lives
To remove the sense of individualism, egoism and materialism as a way of life
To be aware and proud of our Catholic heritage and history and to learn form it
To be able to reclaim our identity as a Catholic
Sessions and workshop
What does it mean to be a Catholic (The introductory)
- Triad of God – Father, son, holy spirit, bible
Self – personality, attitude, mentality, way of life
Community – Church – its teachings and its laws
Neighbours, friends, family, country, planet
(suggested speaker – Mr Martin Jallel)
Challenges the church faced for the past 2000 years (Community – church)
- the early church
- Christianizing of culture
- the various councils
- the bible
- the 1st schism
- the popes
- the holy war
- reformation
- Vatican 1
- Vatican 11
- The modern church
(suggested speaker – Mr Bruno Pereira)
How to understand and interpret the bible (God – scripture)
- the concept of sola sciptura
- literal meanings
- historical backgrounds
(Suggested speaker – Mr Bruno Pereira)
What Jesus talks about justice and peace (God – community)
- Where is the bible God ones us to be part in upholding justice and peace
- Be sound in politics and current affairs
- Voting, democracy
- How do we play a role
(suggested speaker – Fr O.C Lim)
What Jesus talks about the poor and marginalized (God – community)
- Where is the bible God wants us to uphold the poor and marginalized
- How do we reach out to them
(suggested speaker – Fr Anthony Naden)
How Jesus would want us live our life (God – self)
- what is a Christian life
- ho do we live it in this difficult world today
- putting use of talents to benefit others
- respect of self – mental and physical
(suggested speaker – Fr Christopher Wee)
Jesus being part of the community (God – community)
- let us not be materialistic
- let us not be selfish
- let us contribute to the community by vocation and not just profession
(suggested speaker - Fr Danny)
Tolerance, Respect, no discrimination, equality in this diverse community (Self – community)
- learn to respect other religion and culture
- learn to understand other religions and culture
- culture and religion – follow or not to follow
- Jesus and his culture and religion
(Fr Christopher WIlwaraj)
Spreading Christ way (God – self – community)
- how do become trend setters for others to follow a good way of life
- media
- usage of tools existent around us to be the light and salt of society
Conclusion
It is hope that with this theme the catholic students would recognize their identity as Catholics having in mind its fundamental soul of God, Self and Community and thus putting it into action being part of their way of life.
Proposed by, 11th October 2009
GREGORY
ps : this is just a draft.....posting it very much early just to immortalize my idea. u know hak cipta terpelihara...... :-P
“Faith Empowerment”
Introduction
I joined 2 ICGs before and the themes that were chosen were consistent with the times and I manage to decipher a flow in the ideas from the both, from Our faith our freedom to Our religion the in thing. We have first learnt of choice and freewill to worship any faith and God (Christianity for us) and to defend that choice we have made. Then we have been enlightened to know that following religion and putting it as part of our lives as ok and a priority, nothing to be ashamed and feared off. Now having known of the freedom of choice and our choice of Jesus is the In thing what now? We now need the drive to put the faith into action and thus need the drive to do so in the right way according to what Jesus as though us. We also need to be strong on our fundamental basic foundation of our faith of Christianity being strong, ‘patriotic’, loyal and proud of it. Having strong basics will ensure our faith will stand strong.
Prologue
We are Christians. We are Catholics. We have faith in Jesus Christ. How do we put it into action? What does Jesus wants us to do? What are the teachings of Christ and of his mission of us in this world? Catholics nowadays do not know how to be Catholics. The mindset and mentality that catechism has thought us drifts away after confirmation and faith becomes something personal so much so it becomes a selfish tool. God is only to oneself and in the end we began to follow the God we made but not the God who made us. God is only there to answer our prayers and to do so we must continue to worship Him??? Is God a Master and are we his slaves? How do we bring back the sheep back to right camp? How do we become correct Catholics, but first we need to know what does it mean to become a catholic. Being a catholic and the essence of its fundamental believe is the triad of God Self and Community. Now the focus of community is eroding as people become more selfish and individualistic succumbing to the earthly wimps of materialism and so on. No though many claim to have Jesus in them but are they really following what Jesus wants us to do following His will? Jesus came down to serve and not to be served. He died for us, he lived for us. He came for all of us as he lived at his time with the community. So we too need to follow his reason for his coming, to serve. Many Catholics questions sometimes why is the church busy fighting for justice and peace, playing with politics, ‘busy bodying’ into every issue and they also question if all this part of the bible and the teachings of Jesus. Furthermore they say that the church is old fashion and outdated and is becoming redundant. Is it so? The church does not bow down to the pressures of society following its wimps and fancies but upholds Christ ways. Catholics say yes to uphold morality, justice and peace, equality, basically maintaining a civilization and we need to prove it to them and to ourselves too.
Objectives
To instill the concept of God Self and Community as being a Catholic
To empower students to put their faith into action
To call students to follow Jesus purpose of his coming
To prove Jesus ‘approval’ of our actions as being part of a community.
To make aware of the challenges the church has faced in the past 2009 years
To instill respect and trust to the church Jesus built on Peter.
Vision
Students empowered by Christ putting His works into action through us.
Mission
To reach out to the poor and needy
To be the voice for the oppressed and marginalized
To uphold justice and peace
To follow morals and values in daily lives
To remove the sense of individualism, egoism and materialism as a way of life
To be aware and proud of our Catholic heritage and history and to learn form it
To be able to reclaim our identity as a Catholic
Sessions and workshop
What does it mean to be a Catholic (The introductory)
- Triad of God – Father, son, holy spirit, bible
Self – personality, attitude, mentality, way of life
Community – Church – its teachings and its laws
Neighbours, friends, family, country, planet
(suggested speaker – Mr Martin Jallel)
Challenges the church faced for the past 2000 years (Community – church)
- the early church
- Christianizing of culture
- the various councils
- the bible
- the 1st schism
- the popes
- the holy war
- reformation
- Vatican 1
- Vatican 11
- The modern church
(suggested speaker – Mr Bruno Pereira)
How to understand and interpret the bible (God – scripture)
- the concept of sola sciptura
- literal meanings
- historical backgrounds
(Suggested speaker – Mr Bruno Pereira)
What Jesus talks about justice and peace (God – community)
- Where is the bible God ones us to be part in upholding justice and peace
- Be sound in politics and current affairs
- Voting, democracy
- How do we play a role
(suggested speaker – Fr O.C Lim)
What Jesus talks about the poor and marginalized (God – community)
- Where is the bible God wants us to uphold the poor and marginalized
- How do we reach out to them
(suggested speaker – Fr Anthony Naden)
How Jesus would want us live our life (God – self)
- what is a Christian life
- ho do we live it in this difficult world today
- putting use of talents to benefit others
- respect of self – mental and physical
(suggested speaker – Fr Christopher Wee)
Jesus being part of the community (God – community)
- let us not be materialistic
- let us not be selfish
- let us contribute to the community by vocation and not just profession
(suggested speaker - Fr Danny)
Tolerance, Respect, no discrimination, equality in this diverse community (Self – community)
- learn to respect other religion and culture
- learn to understand other religions and culture
- culture and religion – follow or not to follow
- Jesus and his culture and religion
(Fr Christopher WIlwaraj)
Spreading Christ way (God – self – community)
- how do become trend setters for others to follow a good way of life
- media
- usage of tools existent around us to be the light and salt of society
Conclusion
It is hope that with this theme the catholic students would recognize their identity as Catholics having in mind its fundamental soul of God, Self and Community and thus putting it into action being part of their way of life.
Proposed by, 11th October 2009
GREGORY
ps : this is just a draft.....posting it very much early just to immortalize my idea. u know hak cipta terpelihara...... :-P
Wednesday, September 30, 2009
add ons oni
The verse from the bible to me :
Ephesians 4:1 NIV
As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received.
- sounds like Jonah haha
(http://www.birthverse.com/mybirthverse.cfm)
Happiness is being happy , joy is having God in you
Ephesians 4:1 NIV
As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received.
- sounds like Jonah haha
(http://www.birthverse.com/mybirthverse.cfm)
Happiness is being happy , joy is having God in you
Sunday, September 13, 2009
Us and Death
How, when, why, who, what is of death? Who of cos we know - all of us duh one day. Why....so that there would be continuation and renewal of life. What? - time when u are not alive haha. How - brain die already. When? Ha! When?
When will death come? Actually no one knows but does the person who is going to die know? How will he know and how does he know that one is going to die. And those signs will it come to the close loved ones too?
I have heard many stories before always after the death as occurred loved ones talk about signs that they missed. Stuff like mirror breaking, candle lights goes of unexpectedly during prayers and butterflies start to fly in the stomach stuff like that. And many of those stories are like got nothing to do with death or perhaps mere co-incidence or just a spark of emotional disturbances - something which cannot realte those events to the death that has occurred. So most of the time all these is put aside and sort of silently taken as rubbish. One story is that all of a sudden a pet come caressing on the owner (the deceased) and that spark sence of weirdness and all. When all these events took place no one thinks of death even to those who are going to die.
But something happened to me which got me bewildered. One day M called me and said K is making unusually loud noise. K always makes noise and D always scolds her and M is not so much of complaining like got immune d. When i got the call M told be that and i got this weird sence. I never expected M to make such a complain to me and moreover she ask me if there is any medication to keep her quiet. Well there is non but i said give her cough mixture which is a mild sedative. She also asked me why is she suddenly making such noise and also said the day before she was looking at the ceiling and pointing towards it as usual making noise. I jokingly actually not really said she perhaps is going to go d. M hushed me and i retract the statement. In my head i was still thinking perhaps she is going to go. During the period of unusual noise making D was not at home sum more. 2 days later K had seizure second to TIA. 6 days later she died. When i heard of the dx (my own one actually) i was prepared for the worst but gave room for better possibilities which was not likely tough based on her condition. Now she is dead i was wondering was i right one the sign? Why din I brushed it away - perhaps it has been conditioned d for me to be anticipating such news and relating it to death.
However i myself feel weird of my being. I feel like i am a camera 24/7 for somebody. somebody is watching this world through my eyes. My name itself means the watchful one. Who am I? Do i hold any powers? hehe perhaps not - highly unlikely. Furthermore i am going to become a doctor. But i dont want to become a doctor who can predict death but i want to predict life for goodness sake. I want to function and be like what should a doctor be like!!!!
Have i broken the clue to the calling of death. The biggest death that broke my heart to pieces till this day was the death of my cousins in a go and that event is something i am reluctant to recall and it was very painful.
Does God give us signs of death? Perhaps he is trying to say dont take life of loved ones and self for granted. Maybe if the sign comes to the one who is going to die then it is to give them a sign saying your purpose on earth is over and now you can return home to Him. If it comes to the loved ones then it may mean dont take for granted and start mending?
A fren told me of what a pastor told him on why Good people die faster - Perhaps their purpose on earth is over and God has called them back. For K i dunno what is the exact purpose of her life but perhaps in the time to come we would know.
A bad feeling just came in. Will this death be a sort of punishment for M n D for not taking care well of K or for not valuing fully her life and not being able to see her purpose on this earth? I hope God have Mercy of M n D's family. We ask Thee for forgiveness. But is it too late??
I am very sad for not being close to M n D through this troubled periods sum more being far away from them. Would be different if i was in Cheras. I wish i could be in the hospital helping to monitor the situation as i have the knowledge though limited.
Many things about purpose death myself my family etc are running in my head. I let it run till it stops - i feel perhaps some answer to questions i do not know would arise from it.
This moment i would never forget and i will keep in mind as a clue to who i really am.
When will death come? Actually no one knows but does the person who is going to die know? How will he know and how does he know that one is going to die. And those signs will it come to the close loved ones too?
I have heard many stories before always after the death as occurred loved ones talk about signs that they missed. Stuff like mirror breaking, candle lights goes of unexpectedly during prayers and butterflies start to fly in the stomach stuff like that. And many of those stories are like got nothing to do with death or perhaps mere co-incidence or just a spark of emotional disturbances - something which cannot realte those events to the death that has occurred. So most of the time all these is put aside and sort of silently taken as rubbish. One story is that all of a sudden a pet come caressing on the owner (the deceased) and that spark sence of weirdness and all. When all these events took place no one thinks of death even to those who are going to die.
But something happened to me which got me bewildered. One day M called me and said K is making unusually loud noise. K always makes noise and D always scolds her and M is not so much of complaining like got immune d. When i got the call M told be that and i got this weird sence. I never expected M to make such a complain to me and moreover she ask me if there is any medication to keep her quiet. Well there is non but i said give her cough mixture which is a mild sedative. She also asked me why is she suddenly making such noise and also said the day before she was looking at the ceiling and pointing towards it as usual making noise. I jokingly actually not really said she perhaps is going to go d. M hushed me and i retract the statement. In my head i was still thinking perhaps she is going to go. During the period of unusual noise making D was not at home sum more. 2 days later K had seizure second to TIA. 6 days later she died. When i heard of the dx (my own one actually) i was prepared for the worst but gave room for better possibilities which was not likely tough based on her condition. Now she is dead i was wondering was i right one the sign? Why din I brushed it away - perhaps it has been conditioned d for me to be anticipating such news and relating it to death.
However i myself feel weird of my being. I feel like i am a camera 24/7 for somebody. somebody is watching this world through my eyes. My name itself means the watchful one. Who am I? Do i hold any powers? hehe perhaps not - highly unlikely. Furthermore i am going to become a doctor. But i dont want to become a doctor who can predict death but i want to predict life for goodness sake. I want to function and be like what should a doctor be like!!!!
Have i broken the clue to the calling of death. The biggest death that broke my heart to pieces till this day was the death of my cousins in a go and that event is something i am reluctant to recall and it was very painful.
Does God give us signs of death? Perhaps he is trying to say dont take life of loved ones and self for granted. Maybe if the sign comes to the one who is going to die then it is to give them a sign saying your purpose on earth is over and now you can return home to Him. If it comes to the loved ones then it may mean dont take for granted and start mending?
A fren told me of what a pastor told him on why Good people die faster - Perhaps their purpose on earth is over and God has called them back. For K i dunno what is the exact purpose of her life but perhaps in the time to come we would know.
A bad feeling just came in. Will this death be a sort of punishment for M n D for not taking care well of K or for not valuing fully her life and not being able to see her purpose on this earth? I hope God have Mercy of M n D's family. We ask Thee for forgiveness. But is it too late??
I am very sad for not being close to M n D through this troubled periods sum more being far away from them. Would be different if i was in Cheras. I wish i could be in the hospital helping to monitor the situation as i have the knowledge though limited.
Many things about purpose death myself my family etc are running in my head. I let it run till it stops - i feel perhaps some answer to questions i do not know would arise from it.
This moment i would never forget and i will keep in mind as a clue to who i really am.
Tuesday, September 8, 2009
Youth and church
Does the church understand the youths of today? As we all know every generation of kids popping out into this world there is a new mentality which is basically more modern in materialism and the way i see more backward in thought. having to have that hypothesis in mind and also the current challenges everyone faces (in terms of youths) it is hard to manage these youths. The church cannot use authoritative power over these people - they would simply run. Rules is also a no no. Guidelines is also a maybe. To address this issue the church would 1st need to understand the psychological nature of youths both the natural and the worldly. Adolescence is a period os soul, identity seeking and also personality developement. And we know there are 3 theories of personality development. Understanding them and using the tricks acquired from them only can the church address the youths. The youths needs guidelines thought its a 'maybe' and should be well received with open arms. The church should allow them to make mistakes and also at the same time allow them to be independent - give them room to explore. Let them question their faith. There is nothing for us to hide in Christianity as the truth is always there. What i mean by allowing to do mistakes is that make sure u told them its wrong, when they make the mistake accept them back and show them God, but dont condemn them.
Adolescence is a dynamic period of life therefore a dynamic approach would be good. they dont like to be controlled....let them be as they are but always be at their side.
Lately the church has centralized the university youths into the larger mother body on youths called ASAYO. this has left us now to follow what the big body does. Unsure on how are the details of the organization but i presume that the CSSes would end up as single independent body already. All university youths are required to join the church youths. It is simply to large to handle for a particular parish to have about 100o youths wanting to do something not to forget other church ministries and their activities. More university youths will stop coming to church. More youths will start to despise the church for not understanding them and these youths will grow up and grow away form the church and then later will bear children further away form he church. SO now - what will be the future of the church. Is it not like the church is setting a time bomb for itself???
However sometimes we cannot put absolute blame on the church policy makers as they are by nature old fashioned, apathetic, and out of touch. For them the concept of rule by law and centralization and typical hierarchy is tattooed into their mind. Therefor we can only wait for hope of a change probably starting with a change of leadership. But at the same time we should not continue to fight the new system but try to work our way around it or withing it. Perhaps some if not more good can still come out of it. I feel that most system implemented fail not due to the system per say but it is due mostly by the members in it.
Although we disagree to certain things the church does we should not run from the reality that it is run by humans who are sinners themselves and for more who are we compared to those religious in such matter for us to judge and brand and we too are not perfect either. Our church has lived for 2009 yrs with God's grace and we should turn to Him and pray for the betterment of our Church and also for those policy makers. If we do not do such that makes us protestants.
We need to be obedient to out Holy Mother Church on which Jesus has built on the rock - Peter, our Faith and Our God Jesus Christ!
Amen - peace.
Adolescence is a dynamic period of life therefore a dynamic approach would be good. they dont like to be controlled....let them be as they are but always be at their side.
Lately the church has centralized the university youths into the larger mother body on youths called ASAYO. this has left us now to follow what the big body does. Unsure on how are the details of the organization but i presume that the CSSes would end up as single independent body already. All university youths are required to join the church youths. It is simply to large to handle for a particular parish to have about 100o youths wanting to do something not to forget other church ministries and their activities. More university youths will stop coming to church. More youths will start to despise the church for not understanding them and these youths will grow up and grow away form the church and then later will bear children further away form he church. SO now - what will be the future of the church. Is it not like the church is setting a time bomb for itself???
However sometimes we cannot put absolute blame on the church policy makers as they are by nature old fashioned, apathetic, and out of touch. For them the concept of rule by law and centralization and typical hierarchy is tattooed into their mind. Therefor we can only wait for hope of a change probably starting with a change of leadership. But at the same time we should not continue to fight the new system but try to work our way around it or withing it. Perhaps some if not more good can still come out of it. I feel that most system implemented fail not due to the system per say but it is due mostly by the members in it.
Although we disagree to certain things the church does we should not run from the reality that it is run by humans who are sinners themselves and for more who are we compared to those religious in such matter for us to judge and brand and we too are not perfect either. Our church has lived for 2009 yrs with God's grace and we should turn to Him and pray for the betterment of our Church and also for those policy makers. If we do not do such that makes us protestants.
We need to be obedient to out Holy Mother Church on which Jesus has built on the rock - Peter, our Faith and Our God Jesus Christ!
Amen - peace.
Friday, August 21, 2009
Silent Fool - peace?
From a forwarded mail
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A German's View on Islam
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. (www..itwillpass.com/guns_gun_registration.shtml)
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And, who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans,Japanese,Chinese,Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.
Emanuel Tanay, M.D.
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A German's View on Islam
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. (www..itwillpass.com/guns_gun_registration.shtml)
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And, who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans,Japanese,Chinese,Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.
Emanuel Tanay, M.D.
50 years and still spoiling
Why is our Malaysian culture as such now? Apathetic, no unity or should i saw pseudounity, kiasu, live for themselve, racist, not patriotic, inefficient and unproductive in comparison to 1st world countries (modernlah).?? Why?
I would put the blame on the government who has control of our whole community of Malaysians. They have shaped us and their shaping strategy has fallen short (really short) in the long run basis.
As we all know our government is under BN aka UMNO for the past 50 years and they have been championing Malay rights since it was born. If we look back into history this objective was i would say rightful to build up nationalism to win independence and later to become a striving community like the Japanese after the radiation they encountered made them overproduction good for the country :-P (probably we need a dose too....no?) However we also know or we should also know that independence and the childhood days of Malaya was also contributed significantly by the non-Malays.
The RMK programs that took off after merdeka was good to build the Malay race and it actually did work till corruption came into power so much so the actual losers were the Malays themselves. When corrupted people came into power they brought along fear, fear of loosing their corrupted power. SO what happend was that to prevent losing the gave 'generously' saying that it is their right as bumi's. So they ought to get it 'free'. Well humans learn to grow by falling and also according to the theory of reward and punishment however the Malays never fell or punished but they were rewarded. So how could have they learned?? Therefore the result is laziness and unproductiveness or their race which is obviously seen by the number of Mat rempits (there goes the so called project of 1 family 1 graduate .... now 1 family 1 rempit has been born instead) Well the are contiousely being fed though. Guess what Nabi ISa said they did not bother : give a man a fish eats for a day, teach him to fish eats forever. The BN/UMNO has spoilt the whole race who lives only on rewards now fear of loosing it which will eventually happen in a painful way later. They ahve devolepd low self esteem. They also know that their race is so incapable when not helped then will end up showing the withdrawal symptoms if it happens which means - riots etc. To shut the fear of the loss they mistakenly continue to fuel their wrong doings by continue to feed but not educate and also poisoning their minds with racism and disunity under the banner of 1 Malaysia.
Now that is the story of why the Malays are as they are today. Now lets look at how the non-Malays got spoilt. Well 1 Malaysia did exist long time ago before May 13. Before that the non we patriotic and it was building up in becoming stronger till all seemed to be going unfair instead. Everything was given to the Malays. Well it is ok to give but the government is giving in the expense off our rights. Now this is frustrating and wrong ethically and morally. So since MIC and MCA are wagging dogs to most of the extant the non begun their own way of surviving. So the only way is to be selfish already. If not u wont be able to survive in this country since everything in your expense is going to the Malays. It is a natural thing - survival of the fittest. So in the long run we have forgotten patriotism, we have left the country (brain drain), we became only superficially united but not deep in, we hate the malays for being unproductive and inefficient and also jealous towards them u know why and we hate the government. We could not change the government for fear of loosing even the skill of survival we have in us. We might be marginalized to the max if we dont support the proxy face of good BN. We dont like the politicians and it has become mundane of politics as nothing changes. So we become apathetic to the politics of the country. MCA and MIC gave us so much false hope which spanned generations causing us to forget our rights too.
The vernacular schools need to go but not now for if it goes off now then there goes our rights too and also our identity. As long as the Malays get everything we cannot afford to give away what we have already have in our hands. Our forefathers who signed the disillusioned 5 social contract we dumb but perhaps most probably at that time all including the Malays leaders did not foresee the future of what would have the contract would become off.
Now a cycle. The nons dislike the Malays and for their survival stayed away from the government sectors example the government service, military and police so much so it has come to appoint where they cant have leaders off other races among their ranks. How can a minority lead a majority??? They got a point and we cant complaint. Perhaps of the nons we have in the those sectors are not so capable too. So their goes another excuse for them not to put one. At the same time these sectors also control the flooding of non into them since there are many more Malays who depend on the government to survive for they just cant survive in the private sector.
Now what is happening is a revolution which will take time to end. It has begun the age where thigs are going to change but so far it has not turn violent. I also doubt it will turn violent course generally Malaysians are peaceful and dont riot. Even if we do it is always a peaceful riot until the police interferes. Ah coming to think further. the non also dont want to join the gov sector due to the corruption it has in it. These corruption are sometimes silent. So the losers BN/UMNO are ebing sore loosers therefore they start branding all those against the government as traitors using ISA on innocent people. Instigation and pressuring the opposition leaders on baseless accusation, courts and other gov agencies taking sides. Putting up sandiwaras and stupid slogans as eye washers. Mainstream media gone to them.
so people be patient continue to fight. Justice will prevail unfortunately after fucking everyone.
The Malays can easily be instigated. This is because they cant think for themselves already because the government has spoiled their minds. However thankfully there are smart Malays around who do fight back.
All great organization will eventually fall one day. History has proven it. BN will fall one day. It has begun. Just for the looser dont be sore.
Allahu Wukbar
I would put the blame on the government who has control of our whole community of Malaysians. They have shaped us and their shaping strategy has fallen short (really short) in the long run basis.
As we all know our government is under BN aka UMNO for the past 50 years and they have been championing Malay rights since it was born. If we look back into history this objective was i would say rightful to build up nationalism to win independence and later to become a striving community like the Japanese after the radiation they encountered made them overproduction good for the country :-P (probably we need a dose too....no?) However we also know or we should also know that independence and the childhood days of Malaya was also contributed significantly by the non-Malays.
The RMK programs that took off after merdeka was good to build the Malay race and it actually did work till corruption came into power so much so the actual losers were the Malays themselves. When corrupted people came into power they brought along fear, fear of loosing their corrupted power. SO what happend was that to prevent losing the gave 'generously' saying that it is their right as bumi's. So they ought to get it 'free'. Well humans learn to grow by falling and also according to the theory of reward and punishment however the Malays never fell or punished but they were rewarded. So how could have they learned?? Therefore the result is laziness and unproductiveness or their race which is obviously seen by the number of Mat rempits (there goes the so called project of 1 family 1 graduate .... now 1 family 1 rempit has been born instead) Well the are contiousely being fed though. Guess what Nabi ISa said they did not bother : give a man a fish eats for a day, teach him to fish eats forever. The BN/UMNO has spoilt the whole race who lives only on rewards now fear of loosing it which will eventually happen in a painful way later. They ahve devolepd low self esteem. They also know that their race is so incapable when not helped then will end up showing the withdrawal symptoms if it happens which means - riots etc. To shut the fear of the loss they mistakenly continue to fuel their wrong doings by continue to feed but not educate and also poisoning their minds with racism and disunity under the banner of 1 Malaysia.
Now that is the story of why the Malays are as they are today. Now lets look at how the non-Malays got spoilt. Well 1 Malaysia did exist long time ago before May 13. Before that the non we patriotic and it was building up in becoming stronger till all seemed to be going unfair instead. Everything was given to the Malays. Well it is ok to give but the government is giving in the expense off our rights. Now this is frustrating and wrong ethically and morally. So since MIC and MCA are wagging dogs to most of the extant the non begun their own way of surviving. So the only way is to be selfish already. If not u wont be able to survive in this country since everything in your expense is going to the Malays. It is a natural thing - survival of the fittest. So in the long run we have forgotten patriotism, we have left the country (brain drain), we became only superficially united but not deep in, we hate the malays for being unproductive and inefficient and also jealous towards them u know why and we hate the government. We could not change the government for fear of loosing even the skill of survival we have in us. We might be marginalized to the max if we dont support the proxy face of good BN. We dont like the politicians and it has become mundane of politics as nothing changes. So we become apathetic to the politics of the country. MCA and MIC gave us so much false hope which spanned generations causing us to forget our rights too.
The vernacular schools need to go but not now for if it goes off now then there goes our rights too and also our identity. As long as the Malays get everything we cannot afford to give away what we have already have in our hands. Our forefathers who signed the disillusioned 5 social contract we dumb but perhaps most probably at that time all including the Malays leaders did not foresee the future of what would have the contract would become off.
Now a cycle. The nons dislike the Malays and for their survival stayed away from the government sectors example the government service, military and police so much so it has come to appoint where they cant have leaders off other races among their ranks. How can a minority lead a majority??? They got a point and we cant complaint. Perhaps of the nons we have in the those sectors are not so capable too. So their goes another excuse for them not to put one. At the same time these sectors also control the flooding of non into them since there are many more Malays who depend on the government to survive for they just cant survive in the private sector.
Now what is happening is a revolution which will take time to end. It has begun the age where thigs are going to change but so far it has not turn violent. I also doubt it will turn violent course generally Malaysians are peaceful and dont riot. Even if we do it is always a peaceful riot until the police interferes. Ah coming to think further. the non also dont want to join the gov sector due to the corruption it has in it. These corruption are sometimes silent. So the losers BN/UMNO are ebing sore loosers therefore they start branding all those against the government as traitors using ISA on innocent people. Instigation and pressuring the opposition leaders on baseless accusation, courts and other gov agencies taking sides. Putting up sandiwaras and stupid slogans as eye washers. Mainstream media gone to them.
so people be patient continue to fight. Justice will prevail unfortunately after fucking everyone.
The Malays can easily be instigated. This is because they cant think for themselves already because the government has spoiled their minds. However thankfully there are smart Malays around who do fight back.
All great organization will eventually fall one day. History has proven it. BN will fall one day. It has begun. Just for the looser dont be sore.
Allahu Wukbar
Sunday, August 9, 2009
My word? Your word?
The church is fighting for the word Allah to be used legally once and for all in its publications and also in its practice of the faith. Why we do it for i feel is because : our basic right to use any language
: no one can own words or any language
: the usage of Allah by Christians dates back before the time of Islam even before
Christianity itself
: This word is freely used by Christian Arabs
: It is a direct translation of God into Malay
: Freedom of practicing our religion in our own language (East Malaysian)
: the Catholic church has been using this word since it stepped foot in this land
with no trouble.
The government say that we cant use these words because it confuses the Muslims and also
infringes into their religious right. My question : Are your followers of Islam so stupid to become confused? What have you all been teaching them? What about our rights in practicing our religion? Is our religion not worthy of its right or is it a second class religion? Furthermore is it not Malay the national language so why not we use this word then?
Why are the Muslims afraid? Are they afraid that they would convert or just leave the religion? They cant leave the religion!! They can convert too!! So what are they afraid off??
Well it is very clear that in the utmost logical right mind beyond intellectualism and any higher school of thought that there is no wrong in Christians using the word Allah. Arab people themselves laugh at the Malaysian Muslims on how they practice Islam and this fight going on. This fight is childish, stupid and unnecessary and it is just tarnishing the image of this country further.
If the government wins then Malaysia is under the bad light of being an :
extreamist country
no freedom of religion
confirms further the legal subtle persecution
the intention of going further to curb freedom of religion
downfall of the non-Muslim trust on the government
further lost of respect towards the Islamic religion itself
1 Malaysia slogan can be used to wipe shitty ass
fueling more unpatriotism, disharmony etc etc
I dont see any positivity for the country and its people even the Muslims themselves if the gov wins.
That is there. Now even among the Christians there are those who ask the church to stop this court case and give way for the gov to win. What makes them say that :
they have low self esteem
they are cowards
they dont appreciate, apathetic to their basic fundamental rights
they are blind to the future consequences of a ruling which can effect the society
in Malaysia in the long run
they are allowing room and means and ways for themselves to be persecuted.
they are selfish (this ruling affect more of the East Malaysians)
they are already not patriotic that why they dont care what will happen here
Since those people are selfish then of cos either ways it would not effect them so please dont impose your selfish thoughts on those who are not.Same goes for the Muslims.
Such people are easily cheated and their lives are not worth living for they do not examine it.
Where is their sense of pride? Love and faithfulness of your faith and religion?
Is this how you stand up for your religion.
Be thankful that the church is going according to law to fight and not to the streets like the Muslims customary do things.
Are you not proud for your religion or you just do not know your religion enough to feel anything for it?
maybe they just dont want trouble. Well yes who wants it but is running away from trouble/problem a way to solve it?? If yes then u are utterly wrong simply it just does not work that way. If u dont solve trouble, trouble will dissolve u. This is a problem and what the church is doing is a way to solve it. The Holy Mother Church is not a coward and will not bow down to an sort of persecution and human weakness and demands. To solve a problem u need a solution not run away from it.
It is sad that many people nowadays are becoming such. Our future society i feel is already to the dogs and it is because how the government has brought us up (look out for the next post)
The Muslims should instead of fueling hatred towards the non-Malays by teaching the followers the wrong things they should take the opportunity to teach them about sharing. We share same words for the same God. Is it not sharing is caring? Islam does teach about sharing right? I also feel that many Muslims here dont mind the Christians here using this word. It is a disfavor for the Muslims fighting this issue.
We need to learn something from the Muslim side here. Look at them. They are so united when it comes to their religion and they really fight for it even if it is for the wrong reasons. (basically most for the time haha)Why cant we Christians unite this time and fight for this right reason! This is justice. We are fighting for justice and is this not also Jesus thought us. Sometimes peace can only be achieved through wars (physical or mental). On winning we would be able to appreciate the winning and treasure it.
The cartoon series of transformers episode 59 war dawn (see in youtube) sets a good example in this case. The new robots were questioning why they should battle the deceptions and at the same time save the humans. After an incident only they realized why, mere explanation by optimus and the rest did not work.
I despise people who say to give in to injustice and God will take care of it? How will he take care of it if it is not through you?? Do you think Jesus is going to come again to save the day like he did before?? When you die he would ask you in heavens gate besides saving your ass on earth what else did you do? Did you do what i did and saved another?
This Allah issue is a silly issue and yes it is sad that the church is brought into it. Well this is the sacrifice the church has to take to uphold justice. The sacrifice of a possible loss and shame and further criticism. The soldier asked Jesus 'SInce u claim u r the Son of God why dont you save yourself?' Now did Jesus did that? Ask yourself?
Fight for justice never mind if you loose for your failure in the fight is a stepping stone for greater final victory by others. If you did not fight and loose then u have deemed yourself not worth to fight for and live for too.
ALLAH WUKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: no one can own words or any language
: the usage of Allah by Christians dates back before the time of Islam even before
Christianity itself
: This word is freely used by Christian Arabs
: It is a direct translation of God into Malay
: Freedom of practicing our religion in our own language (East Malaysian)
: the Catholic church has been using this word since it stepped foot in this land
with no trouble.
The government say that we cant use these words because it confuses the Muslims and also
infringes into their religious right. My question : Are your followers of Islam so stupid to become confused? What have you all been teaching them? What about our rights in practicing our religion? Is our religion not worthy of its right or is it a second class religion? Furthermore is it not Malay the national language so why not we use this word then?
Why are the Muslims afraid? Are they afraid that they would convert or just leave the religion? They cant leave the religion!! They can convert too!! So what are they afraid off??
Well it is very clear that in the utmost logical right mind beyond intellectualism and any higher school of thought that there is no wrong in Christians using the word Allah. Arab people themselves laugh at the Malaysian Muslims on how they practice Islam and this fight going on. This fight is childish, stupid and unnecessary and it is just tarnishing the image of this country further.
If the government wins then Malaysia is under the bad light of being an :
extreamist country
no freedom of religion
confirms further the legal subtle persecution
the intention of going further to curb freedom of religion
downfall of the non-Muslim trust on the government
further lost of respect towards the Islamic religion itself
1 Malaysia slogan can be used to wipe shitty ass
fueling more unpatriotism, disharmony etc etc
I dont see any positivity for the country and its people even the Muslims themselves if the gov wins.
That is there. Now even among the Christians there are those who ask the church to stop this court case and give way for the gov to win. What makes them say that :
they have low self esteem
they are cowards
they dont appreciate, apathetic to their basic fundamental rights
they are blind to the future consequences of a ruling which can effect the society
in Malaysia in the long run
they are allowing room and means and ways for themselves to be persecuted.
they are selfish (this ruling affect more of the East Malaysians)
they are already not patriotic that why they dont care what will happen here
Since those people are selfish then of cos either ways it would not effect them so please dont impose your selfish thoughts on those who are not.Same goes for the Muslims.
Such people are easily cheated and their lives are not worth living for they do not examine it.
Where is their sense of pride? Love and faithfulness of your faith and religion?
Is this how you stand up for your religion.
Be thankful that the church is going according to law to fight and not to the streets like the Muslims customary do things.
Are you not proud for your religion or you just do not know your religion enough to feel anything for it?
maybe they just dont want trouble. Well yes who wants it but is running away from trouble/problem a way to solve it?? If yes then u are utterly wrong simply it just does not work that way. If u dont solve trouble, trouble will dissolve u. This is a problem and what the church is doing is a way to solve it. The Holy Mother Church is not a coward and will not bow down to an sort of persecution and human weakness and demands. To solve a problem u need a solution not run away from it.
It is sad that many people nowadays are becoming such. Our future society i feel is already to the dogs and it is because how the government has brought us up (look out for the next post)
The Muslims should instead of fueling hatred towards the non-Malays by teaching the followers the wrong things they should take the opportunity to teach them about sharing. We share same words for the same God. Is it not sharing is caring? Islam does teach about sharing right? I also feel that many Muslims here dont mind the Christians here using this word. It is a disfavor for the Muslims fighting this issue.
We need to learn something from the Muslim side here. Look at them. They are so united when it comes to their religion and they really fight for it even if it is for the wrong reasons. (basically most for the time haha)Why cant we Christians unite this time and fight for this right reason! This is justice. We are fighting for justice and is this not also Jesus thought us. Sometimes peace can only be achieved through wars (physical or mental). On winning we would be able to appreciate the winning and treasure it.
The cartoon series of transformers episode 59 war dawn (see in youtube) sets a good example in this case. The new robots were questioning why they should battle the deceptions and at the same time save the humans. After an incident only they realized why, mere explanation by optimus and the rest did not work.
I despise people who say to give in to injustice and God will take care of it? How will he take care of it if it is not through you?? Do you think Jesus is going to come again to save the day like he did before?? When you die he would ask you in heavens gate besides saving your ass on earth what else did you do? Did you do what i did and saved another?
This Allah issue is a silly issue and yes it is sad that the church is brought into it. Well this is the sacrifice the church has to take to uphold justice. The sacrifice of a possible loss and shame and further criticism. The soldier asked Jesus 'SInce u claim u r the Son of God why dont you save yourself?' Now did Jesus did that? Ask yourself?
Fight for justice never mind if you loose for your failure in the fight is a stepping stone for greater final victory by others. If you did not fight and loose then u have deemed yourself not worth to fight for and live for too.
ALLAH WUKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Mission Schools
http://anilnetto.com/christianity/sxi-directors-retirement-marks-end-of-era/#more-12857
It is sad to hear how our catholic schools are deteriorating as time goes by due to many reasons but basically due to money, lack of religious in the teaching field and also government biases. Sometimes i wonder why our church is not doing much to safe this schools like making its own rules and holding onto the management. I believe there are many capable Catholics there willing to work with the church in whatever they are doing however is the church looking out for them?? We always see old worn out people running parish councils and other ministries in the archdiocese with some sitting there for donkey years!!! There are many young people who want to work for the church but just dont make it an option because of life, future matters..
Why cant our bishop source out talents within our church, hire them, pay them good decent wages capable for sustaining basic life according to where they live for the church? You know some people need double jobs to earn a willing and at least the church can be an option as a workplace. Sometimes why just the lay arnt our priest all graduates therefore why not use them too according to their specialists to upbringing certain areas of church importance. If money is of concern with he grace of God i font think so. The Vatican has reported before of going into a surplus after 7 years running into deficit and yet they are surviving. And if the church is really giving out for the people and helping out then of course people would be of no doubt to come forward to help the church financially. Sometimes we should not take things to complicatedly but think simple basics and fundamentals. Its disheartening to look the church has always being redundant with time. It should be more proactive and not passive. There is more to gain then loose.
One might argue that the church is not a corporate body but still it cant forget and hope on people nowadays to work for free or with minimum wages. It is hard to live in today's world without money especially if you have a family. Furthermore if the church expects people to have some sort of unconditional commitment when working with the church then its very wrong for at one thought, the church would not be in anybodies list of cara cari makan. But why not think that once we bring people in then with the guidance of the priest in charge and in the spirit for working in the church perhaps people will then decline further wages and might work for free or maybe some will then thinking about joining the religious life?? Arn't we praying the prayer for vocations every Sunday. All pray and no work makes no point.
The church needs to make itself an option for the younger generation and therefore need to keep up with time.
Same for the schools - perhaps it should take the initiative to hold onto the management and also the hiring of teachers and principles together with the government paying them their salaries. Take a look on how many private run retarded schools are run. The teaches salaries are paid and the school board of governers pays allowances. Another way the school can take control is in selection of students and the number of them too so that in the end there would not be any flooding of students of a particular race in a school. There are many ways to work things out and there is no impossibilities. I urge the Bishops and the Superior generals of the the various religious bodies, professional lay people to come together sit down discuss and come up with a solid plan directed to save our schools. Some schools really serve the benefit of the people like in its location. Closing down a school will make a difference in peoples life as there is where they all grew up. The video link above explains.
It is sad to hear how our catholic schools are deteriorating as time goes by due to many reasons but basically due to money, lack of religious in the teaching field and also government biases. Sometimes i wonder why our church is not doing much to safe this schools like making its own rules and holding onto the management. I believe there are many capable Catholics there willing to work with the church in whatever they are doing however is the church looking out for them?? We always see old worn out people running parish councils and other ministries in the archdiocese with some sitting there for donkey years!!! There are many young people who want to work for the church but just dont make it an option because of life, future matters..
Why cant our bishop source out talents within our church, hire them, pay them good decent wages capable for sustaining basic life according to where they live for the church? You know some people need double jobs to earn a willing and at least the church can be an option as a workplace. Sometimes why just the lay arnt our priest all graduates therefore why not use them too according to their specialists to upbringing certain areas of church importance. If money is of concern with he grace of God i font think so. The Vatican has reported before of going into a surplus after 7 years running into deficit and yet they are surviving. And if the church is really giving out for the people and helping out then of course people would be of no doubt to come forward to help the church financially. Sometimes we should not take things to complicatedly but think simple basics and fundamentals. Its disheartening to look the church has always being redundant with time. It should be more proactive and not passive. There is more to gain then loose.
One might argue that the church is not a corporate body but still it cant forget and hope on people nowadays to work for free or with minimum wages. It is hard to live in today's world without money especially if you have a family. Furthermore if the church expects people to have some sort of unconditional commitment when working with the church then its very wrong for at one thought, the church would not be in anybodies list of cara cari makan. But why not think that once we bring people in then with the guidance of the priest in charge and in the spirit for working in the church perhaps people will then decline further wages and might work for free or maybe some will then thinking about joining the religious life?? Arn't we praying the prayer for vocations every Sunday. All pray and no work makes no point.
The church needs to make itself an option for the younger generation and therefore need to keep up with time.
Same for the schools - perhaps it should take the initiative to hold onto the management and also the hiring of teachers and principles together with the government paying them their salaries. Take a look on how many private run retarded schools are run. The teaches salaries are paid and the school board of governers pays allowances. Another way the school can take control is in selection of students and the number of them too so that in the end there would not be any flooding of students of a particular race in a school. There are many ways to work things out and there is no impossibilities. I urge the Bishops and the Superior generals of the the various religious bodies, professional lay people to come together sit down discuss and come up with a solid plan directed to save our schools. Some schools really serve the benefit of the people like in its location. Closing down a school will make a difference in peoples life as there is where they all grew up. The video link above explains.
Friday, June 19, 2009
How arrogance divides people
left a comment there
http://anilnetto.com/christianity/how-arrogance-divides-people/#more-12712
http://anilnetto.com/christianity/how-arrogance-divides-people/#more-12712
Wednesday, June 17, 2009
Penang Church Land Issue
Well posted many comments here about this issue defending the Catholic Church.
Why has the church have to be the bad guy??? haish.....admire the church for standing ground of what they believe and stand for not being bent even a little towards the devil's work. What Jesus told Peter really rings in my mind and so it does in the great St Peter's Basilica.
http://anilnetto.com/accountability/eviction-controversy-penang-bishops-office-issues-statement/#more-12579
http://anilnetto.com/accountability/eviction-controversy-penang-bishop-responds/
http://anilnetto.com/accountability/air-of-gloom-as-church-orders-villagers-to-vacate-land/
Why has the church have to be the bad guy??? haish.....admire the church for standing ground of what they believe and stand for not being bent even a little towards the devil's work. What Jesus told Peter really rings in my mind and so it does in the great St Peter's Basilica.
http://anilnetto.com/accountability/eviction-controversy-penang-bishops-office-issues-statement/#more-12579
http://anilnetto.com/accountability/eviction-controversy-penang-bishop-responds/
http://anilnetto.com/accountability/air-of-gloom-as-church-orders-villagers-to-vacate-land/
Thursday, June 4, 2009
Names
Do you live up to your name? (the meaning of it). I am curious how a name can influence one's life. When u get to know the meaning of your name early, then there is a possibility you might growing into your name but if u know your name only later in life when much of your characteristics are almost certain will it be according to your name naturally or not? If it is true that the name will identity who you will be in the future then dont give yourselves names of dogs or other animals. If it does not still dont name your kids with names of animals. Anyway if it does not how much then. If you read the meaning of names and look into the person most of the time there are some similarities, so how does it work?
Monday, May 25, 2009
Doubting Cristianity
simple logic - few question for u to ponder or take into consideration for ur doubts. Jesus had followers so they would right the truth about his MISSION if not they are not followers but just hocuspocus. (why want to waist time lying - if u are a follower of someone wat wud u do??)
passes dwn orally in the beggining yes. ur argument that there ... Read Morewud be alot of changes to it - yes true - there came the gnostic writtings together with the current gospels. but remember the present gospel writers were the closes to Jesus or the closest time to Jesus so perhaps all of them may have met him at one pont in their live. so it can be considered that the gospels were not result of what the last guy in line said.
they borrowed stories so that they may be almost the same??? How can that be when they have followed Jesus. It is like u and me writing a report on a talk we attended together. How much can it differ?? Can the writers see the future precisely like the event of the council of Nicea whenthe bible was finally put together? This was like 300 yrs later
Jesus Divine? He IS no doubt. God is all powerful and mighty and we are unable to comprehend his greatness which is infinite with our finite understanding. Why not he come down has man and God the same time. He is just like a superhuman, a X-Men. (minus the violence) So why not? Dont ... Read Moreput God into the coconut shell of a human beings understanding. God knew of doubt would arise that is why God inspired the writers to write about Thomas the apostle a.k.a doubting Thomas. why are u forcing urself not to belief? Science itself cant explain everything and behind every door of science there is God. Faith fills this up. Even to believe in Science one needs faith. The Old testament talks about the coming of the Messiah the Son of God - 3 religion believe in this but only one Believe it is Christ the others denied him. The Jews denied him in the beginning so they follow the denied way. Something like the protestants - they follow one man's disagreement to the Church God has entrusted through Peter from the beginning of Christianity. The Muslims i guess forgot about the Messiah and emphasized more on Nabi Muhammad. Jews are still waiting.
The bible is not an autobiography nor and history book. That is not its purpose. Its purpose is to give Basic Information Before Leaving Earth. Salvation. So why look at it and hold it account for what it is not?? Its not fair to the author of the bible.
God is natural so why is it not natural for God to be Man and God at the same time. It is the same with the trinity. 3 in 1.... Read More
When you doubt about something don't forget to doubt ur doubting. Doubt the doubt. If u don't then that doubt may lead u astray. And is this not the geniousity of the devil. Forgetting the existence of the devil is a good thing for the devil too.
Doubt to learn doubt to enrich ur faith doubt no to distant urself. Have faith. God Bless. God's Speed, Shalom!
passes dwn orally in the beggining yes. ur argument that there ... Read Morewud be alot of changes to it - yes true - there came the gnostic writtings together with the current gospels. but remember the present gospel writers were the closes to Jesus or the closest time to Jesus so perhaps all of them may have met him at one pont in their live. so it can be considered that the gospels were not result of what the last guy in line said.
they borrowed stories so that they may be almost the same??? How can that be when they have followed Jesus. It is like u and me writing a report on a talk we attended together. How much can it differ?? Can the writers see the future precisely like the event of the council of Nicea whenthe bible was finally put together? This was like 300 yrs later
Jesus Divine? He IS no doubt. God is all powerful and mighty and we are unable to comprehend his greatness which is infinite with our finite understanding. Why not he come down has man and God the same time. He is just like a superhuman, a X-Men. (minus the violence) So why not? Dont ... Read Moreput God into the coconut shell of a human beings understanding. God knew of doubt would arise that is why God inspired the writers to write about Thomas the apostle a.k.a doubting Thomas. why are u forcing urself not to belief? Science itself cant explain everything and behind every door of science there is God. Faith fills this up. Even to believe in Science one needs faith. The Old testament talks about the coming of the Messiah the Son of God - 3 religion believe in this but only one Believe it is Christ the others denied him. The Jews denied him in the beginning so they follow the denied way. Something like the protestants - they follow one man's disagreement to the Church God has entrusted through Peter from the beginning of Christianity. The Muslims i guess forgot about the Messiah and emphasized more on Nabi Muhammad. Jews are still waiting.
The bible is not an autobiography nor and history book. That is not its purpose. Its purpose is to give Basic Information Before Leaving Earth. Salvation. So why look at it and hold it account for what it is not?? Its not fair to the author of the bible.
God is natural so why is it not natural for God to be Man and God at the same time. It is the same with the trinity. 3 in 1.... Read More
When you doubt about something don't forget to doubt ur doubting. Doubt the doubt. If u don't then that doubt may lead u astray. And is this not the geniousity of the devil. Forgetting the existence of the devil is a good thing for the devil too.
Doubt to learn doubt to enrich ur faith doubt no to distant urself. Have faith. God Bless. God's Speed, Shalom!
Sunday, May 3, 2009
ThAnk yOu @ SorRy
To beautiful and strong words which carry lots of meaning and effect to the person saying it and also the person who receives it.
These words when used with sincerity and honesty will leave positive impact on each party.
When u say sorry, for it to be meaningful you would have to forgive yourself 1st and try not to do it again. If it is done again then the sorry u said for the last time would not hold water already. More over if u keep on repeating that wrong then your sorry can be thrown out to the drain.
Now the word sorry when used properly can closen the gap of distance created in any bad situation. Close enough to forgive and become better friends. To actually say a correct sorry is difficult because u would have to come out clean and naked of your worng, humbled with humility to accept ones mistake openly. When it is accepted the person who forgives gets credit of being a humbled person himself and the person who says it would rise victorious in persona.
Now the catch is that when u have strip down naked u r vulnerable for attack and mocking and humiliation. At this time u can also be 'killed' if not by the person who you have wronged but from those around. Evil would continuously rake that mistake of your trying to bring u down as far a possible till u have lost all respect and dignity.
In fear of this people would not want to say sorry sincerely anymore moreover even say it. To prevent this also one would need to build up ego and ego distances people in a relationship. Furthermore those vultures prying on you for the sake of covering up their own low self esteem and wrong popularizes yours. Fearing this too people would not want to say sorry. So how now to say sorry in today's world filled with vultures. Dont you want to protect yourself?
Well rightfully you still must say sorry despite if u will be forgiven or killed as long you have forgiven yourself and also learned from the mistake.
Now here is another road. People say sorry just to clear things just because that word and melt a person. People fake their sincerity when they say it and the person wronged is made more into a fool if he does not realize it. So for such people should they be forgiven pula?? You would be taken for granted, made a joke off and what not. Such people also spoil this word just to get away with their wrong. Irony - supposed when some one says i m sorry one actually has gotten their punishment (coming 'naked') but here they actually get away from it haha. shit!!
Lets look at another road. If you don't forgive them wow! they will scold you for it! imagine that - already have been wronged now have to bow down to their sorry!! haha...weird...when they said sorry did they really mean it then?? If you dont forgive you are the bad guy now and they would get away with their mistakes. phew!!
This pushes you to the corner now where u need to decide if you want to stay alive...cool eh people nowadays. Some people dont care if you forgive them or not they would simply brush a sorry to you and walk away doing the same thing over and over again.
Remember history repeats itself and people will never learn. (Few do)
Sorry taken for granted.
What are we to do now?? If you give in you are condoning their action if you dont then u are bad. what to do? Still forgive and leave it to God. You have done your part. You at least should learn. Its difficult and different situation warrants different action.
The word thank you is not is the vocabulary of younger generation people already. Its mere thanks to satisfy the giver. I have fetched young and old people around. The old one say thank you to me the younger ones dont even in front of their own elders. How much thank you have you said how much have u received if u have given in the 1st place haha?? Many if not some dont even say thank you when it matter most for when u say thank you the same way u have said sorry u have become stripped naked, humbled to the giver. U sincerely appreciate the giver and remember the giver of the right they have done to you. People nowadays dont for if they remember they wud feel naked and lower then you - ego. They would prefer to feel that they have achieved something despite getting help all by themselves. If they dont they they fear people will think that they are weak and need help to achieve something. What adds to this problem is that that there are people who also think that way too.
Thank you and sorry are 2 great humble words and should be thought well to the younger generation. Dont fear the ugly world do what is right insyah Allah God will reward you but u will have to be patient for that reward too. (also don't be wanting for that reward - let not the right hand know what the left hand did). We life in a vicious cycle of fear in our lives. Fear begets fear. Let us not fear anymore and do GOOD not go kill around or screw around too haha. Do GOOD for a beautiful cycle will be what we want to live in.
These words when used with sincerity and honesty will leave positive impact on each party.
When u say sorry, for it to be meaningful you would have to forgive yourself 1st and try not to do it again. If it is done again then the sorry u said for the last time would not hold water already. More over if u keep on repeating that wrong then your sorry can be thrown out to the drain.
Now the word sorry when used properly can closen the gap of distance created in any bad situation. Close enough to forgive and become better friends. To actually say a correct sorry is difficult because u would have to come out clean and naked of your worng, humbled with humility to accept ones mistake openly. When it is accepted the person who forgives gets credit of being a humbled person himself and the person who says it would rise victorious in persona.
Now the catch is that when u have strip down naked u r vulnerable for attack and mocking and humiliation. At this time u can also be 'killed' if not by the person who you have wronged but from those around. Evil would continuously rake that mistake of your trying to bring u down as far a possible till u have lost all respect and dignity.
In fear of this people would not want to say sorry sincerely anymore moreover even say it. To prevent this also one would need to build up ego and ego distances people in a relationship. Furthermore those vultures prying on you for the sake of covering up their own low self esteem and wrong popularizes yours. Fearing this too people would not want to say sorry. So how now to say sorry in today's world filled with vultures. Dont you want to protect yourself?
Well rightfully you still must say sorry despite if u will be forgiven or killed as long you have forgiven yourself and also learned from the mistake.
Now here is another road. People say sorry just to clear things just because that word and melt a person. People fake their sincerity when they say it and the person wronged is made more into a fool if he does not realize it. So for such people should they be forgiven pula?? You would be taken for granted, made a joke off and what not. Such people also spoil this word just to get away with their wrong. Irony - supposed when some one says i m sorry one actually has gotten their punishment (coming 'naked') but here they actually get away from it haha. shit!!
Lets look at another road. If you don't forgive them wow! they will scold you for it! imagine that - already have been wronged now have to bow down to their sorry!! haha...weird...when they said sorry did they really mean it then?? If you dont forgive you are the bad guy now and they would get away with their mistakes. phew!!
This pushes you to the corner now where u need to decide if you want to stay alive...cool eh people nowadays. Some people dont care if you forgive them or not they would simply brush a sorry to you and walk away doing the same thing over and over again.
Remember history repeats itself and people will never learn. (Few do)
Sorry taken for granted.
What are we to do now?? If you give in you are condoning their action if you dont then u are bad. what to do? Still forgive and leave it to God. You have done your part. You at least should learn. Its difficult and different situation warrants different action.
The word thank you is not is the vocabulary of younger generation people already. Its mere thanks to satisfy the giver. I have fetched young and old people around. The old one say thank you to me the younger ones dont even in front of their own elders. How much thank you have you said how much have u received if u have given in the 1st place haha?? Many if not some dont even say thank you when it matter most for when u say thank you the same way u have said sorry u have become stripped naked, humbled to the giver. U sincerely appreciate the giver and remember the giver of the right they have done to you. People nowadays dont for if they remember they wud feel naked and lower then you - ego. They would prefer to feel that they have achieved something despite getting help all by themselves. If they dont they they fear people will think that they are weak and need help to achieve something. What adds to this problem is that that there are people who also think that way too.
Thank you and sorry are 2 great humble words and should be thought well to the younger generation. Dont fear the ugly world do what is right insyah Allah God will reward you but u will have to be patient for that reward too. (also don't be wanting for that reward - let not the right hand know what the left hand did). We life in a vicious cycle of fear in our lives. Fear begets fear. Let us not fear anymore and do GOOD not go kill around or screw around too haha. Do GOOD for a beautiful cycle will be what we want to live in.
Wednesday, April 29, 2009
Friends
This was a story I attained from an outing to mass in Church of the
Holy Family, Kajang by our local CSS MMU Cyberjaya :)
In Kajang, we met CSS UCSI, and also CSS UTAR, and then, after the
mass, all of CSS UCSI people and MMU fellows went for makan-makan at
the chinese stalls nearby..
While eating, someone (from UCSI) got a message which touched me a lot..
It was a short story, but sent in one single SMS. It was initially in
chinese, but we requested one of our chinese friends from MMU to
translate it. I listened intently to the whole thing. It goes like this...
One day, there were two friends walking along a desert. They were
chatting and talking about many things, and when they touched on a
certain topic they started arguing and bickering with each other.
Turning out to be a heated argument, one of them slaps the other on
the face.
Then, feeling sad and crying, he/she (not mentioned) bent down on the
sand of the hot desert and wrote "Today, my friend ..(name).. has
slapped me on the face, and I feel so sad and disappointed. "
Continuing their journey, they stumbled upon an oasis (a very rare
area of the desert which has water), and then both of them started to
get excited and jumped into the water. Minutes later one of them (the
one who got slapped earlier) started to drown in the water, and then
his (just using 'his' for future reference) friend swam towards that
direction of the call for help to save him. He successfully caught
hold of him, dragged him to safety and brought him out of the water.
Feeling very grateful, in front of him, a large stone wall, he took a
small stone found on the ground and carved words onto the large stone
saying "Today, my friend has saved my life, and I feel so grateful and
thankful."
Soon as they continued on their journey, his friend (the one who
slapped the other and saved his life) asked him, 'why are you writing
every single event or thing that happens between us? You wanna keep a
diary in the desert?'
His friend replied,
"Writing on the sand is for sad and dreadful things, things that we
should forget. Writing on the stone wall, on the other hand, is for
good deeds that we should remember. Why, because the words on the
sand, will be gushed and blown away and everything written will be
disappeared and forgotten after a very short while; however, words
carved on the stone wall will remain; and hence always stays there for
us to see."
email shared from a friend - eugene (CMO-KLCC)
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We know many people through our lives some may leave an impact bad or good many more might not. How many around us are really friends? Or are they just mere acquaintance? Who and what are friends ? Oxford definition :
A
1 A person joined by affection and intimacy to another, independently of sexual or family love.
2 A near relation. Usu. in pl., those responsible for one.
3 A person who is not hostile or an enemy to another; one who is on the same side.
4 A person who wishes another, a cause, etc., well; a sympathizer, helper, patron,
a supporter of an institution etc., who regularly contributes money or other help.
A helpful thing. LME. c A person who acts for another, esp. (Hist.) as a second
in a duel. E19.
5 An acquaintance, an associate; a stranger whom one comes across or has occasion to mention again.
6 A romantic or sexual partner, a lover. Now a euphemism exc. where qualified as boyfriend, girlfriend, lady-friend, man-friend, etc. LME.
7 (F-.) A member of the Society of Friends. M17.
So ur friends are under which 'A'?
There are many people out there too in disguise of being a friend to you actually is not - they back stab, use you, do not respect you for who you are, take you for granted, stain your image, brings u down etc etc.
How nice if there are really true friends?? this will only occur is everyone in a society your are in have the same mentality of being a true friend for one another.
To break this bond all it needs is mistrust, selfishness, fear and low self esteam of ONE person who will form a vicious cycle creating problems in a group ending up no one trusting each other. I have seen that happening and it saddens. Lots of caliber found within them could not be used to benefit themselves by working together.
I remember times when we were told to make friends then it came a time to be careful which friend you chose (u chose a group to befriend) then be careful who you chose as friends (need resumes now to join the club - cliques appear - i have no cliques in 98% of my life). Further it went trust only a few friends but now dreadfully trust no one. So if you dont trust anyone u would end up on your own and when u r on ur own u need to survive thus doing whatever it takes to survive thus being selfish. Now this is a cycle as ur action will directly or indirectly affect those around you and vice versa everybody will become untrustworthy to everybody. How then to happily live in such environment. Its difficult to be good for people will take you for granted and as a joke. At the same time u cant do bad for these 'friends' are like vultures too waiting for one to do a mistake then use it to bring u dwn even after many years too. what is this world getting into now???
Sadly a 'friend' for me in today's world has become just mere acquaintance. Very few (can count with fingers) will remain true good friends.
Friends including good friends too, come and go and also many times forgotten. But that is ok as long as during that short period of friendship time, quality relationship had developed. And happy moments were etched in memory.
Holy Family, Kajang by our local CSS MMU Cyberjaya :)
In Kajang, we met CSS UCSI, and also CSS UTAR, and then, after the
mass, all of CSS UCSI people and MMU fellows went for makan-makan at
the chinese stalls nearby..
While eating, someone (from UCSI) got a message which touched me a lot..
It was a short story, but sent in one single SMS. It was initially in
chinese, but we requested one of our chinese friends from MMU to
translate it. I listened intently to the whole thing. It goes like this...
One day, there were two friends walking along a desert. They were
chatting and talking about many things, and when they touched on a
certain topic they started arguing and bickering with each other.
Turning out to be a heated argument, one of them slaps the other on
the face.
Then, feeling sad and crying, he/she (not mentioned) bent down on the
sand of the hot desert and wrote "Today, my friend ..(name).. has
slapped me on the face, and I feel so sad and disappointed. "
Continuing their journey, they stumbled upon an oasis (a very rare
area of the desert which has water), and then both of them started to
get excited and jumped into the water. Minutes later one of them (the
one who got slapped earlier) started to drown in the water, and then
his (just using 'his' for future reference) friend swam towards that
direction of the call for help to save him. He successfully caught
hold of him, dragged him to safety and brought him out of the water.
Feeling very grateful, in front of him, a large stone wall, he took a
small stone found on the ground and carved words onto the large stone
saying "Today, my friend has saved my life, and I feel so grateful and
thankful."
Soon as they continued on their journey, his friend (the one who
slapped the other and saved his life) asked him, 'why are you writing
every single event or thing that happens between us? You wanna keep a
diary in the desert?'
His friend replied,
"Writing on the sand is for sad and dreadful things, things that we
should forget. Writing on the stone wall, on the other hand, is for
good deeds that we should remember. Why, because the words on the
sand, will be gushed and blown away and everything written will be
disappeared and forgotten after a very short while; however, words
carved on the stone wall will remain; and hence always stays there for
us to see."
email shared from a friend - eugene (CMO-KLCC)
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We know many people through our lives some may leave an impact bad or good many more might not. How many around us are really friends? Or are they just mere acquaintance? Who and what are friends ? Oxford definition :
A
1 A person joined by affection and intimacy to another, independently of sexual or family love.
2 A near relation. Usu. in pl., those responsible for one.
3 A person who is not hostile or an enemy to another; one who is on the same side.
4 A person who wishes another, a cause, etc., well; a sympathizer, helper, patron,
a supporter of an institution etc., who regularly contributes money or other help.
A helpful thing. LME. c A person who acts for another, esp. (Hist.) as a second
in a duel. E19.
5 An acquaintance, an associate; a stranger whom one comes across or has occasion to mention again.
6 A romantic or sexual partner, a lover. Now a euphemism exc. where qualified as boyfriend, girlfriend, lady-friend, man-friend, etc. LME.
7 (F-.) A member of the Society of Friends. M17.
So ur friends are under which 'A'?
There are many people out there too in disguise of being a friend to you actually is not - they back stab, use you, do not respect you for who you are, take you for granted, stain your image, brings u down etc etc.
How nice if there are really true friends?? this will only occur is everyone in a society your are in have the same mentality of being a true friend for one another.
To break this bond all it needs is mistrust, selfishness, fear and low self esteam of ONE person who will form a vicious cycle creating problems in a group ending up no one trusting each other. I have seen that happening and it saddens. Lots of caliber found within them could not be used to benefit themselves by working together.
I remember times when we were told to make friends then it came a time to be careful which friend you chose (u chose a group to befriend) then be careful who you chose as friends (need resumes now to join the club - cliques appear - i have no cliques in 98% of my life). Further it went trust only a few friends but now dreadfully trust no one. So if you dont trust anyone u would end up on your own and when u r on ur own u need to survive thus doing whatever it takes to survive thus being selfish. Now this is a cycle as ur action will directly or indirectly affect those around you and vice versa everybody will become untrustworthy to everybody. How then to happily live in such environment. Its difficult to be good for people will take you for granted and as a joke. At the same time u cant do bad for these 'friends' are like vultures too waiting for one to do a mistake then use it to bring u dwn even after many years too. what is this world getting into now???
Sadly a 'friend' for me in today's world has become just mere acquaintance. Very few (can count with fingers) will remain true good friends.
Friends including good friends too, come and go and also many times forgotten. But that is ok as long as during that short period of friendship time, quality relationship had developed. And happy moments were etched in memory.
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
ATOMIC
http://cssucsi.blogspot.com/2008/06/chitchat-with-greg-part-1.html
http://cssucsi.blogspot.com/2008/07/chitchat-with-greg-part-2.html
I was the president and founder of CSS UCSI ATOMIC - 2007/2008.
The largest undertaken accomplishment so far.
Malas wanna re-write those though so go ahead to that blogsite to read it if u want to lah but at the same time u can also visit CSS UCSI ATOMIC and also from there go and visit other CSSes around Malaysia.
http://cssucsi.blogspot.com/2008/07/chitchat-with-greg-part-2.html
I was the president and founder of CSS UCSI ATOMIC - 2007/2008.
The largest undertaken accomplishment so far.
Malas wanna re-write those though so go ahead to that blogsite to read it if u want to lah but at the same time u can also visit CSS UCSI ATOMIC and also from there go and visit other CSSes around Malaysia.
Heaven and Hell
Whats the point of having heaven and hell. yeah those days by saying this and telling stories people wud get scared and do good just to go to heaven. Now??? Does it still work? Maybe still.
But to go to heaven or to hell one may need to simply.....die 1st... right or not??
When one does lots of good on earth blah blah blah one wud go to heaven after death. Otherwise one would go to hell. So what. In the after life one would either be eternally tormented or eternally live happily ever after.
My point is so what???
Why cant God instead of punishing those bad people on earth when on earth and reward the good people at the same while on earth instead on sentencing them after death.
Why i say this is that bad people when do bad affect others especially the good people and escape happily till they die. Probably subtlely they may encounter some hardships or some downs (God's so called punishment)but there are high chances they might not realize its a form or punishment. So whats the point then. when u r punished u ideally need to learn a lesson right but here they dont and wont. So evil prevails.
Now sadly....the good people would get more temptations with an excuse that they would become more good. But again whats the point of tempting them till death. Reward today, following day get masalah again haha. God is just having fun with us keke. Some more worse that bad people will kacau us and they would get away and we get cought.
No wonder people say hell is on earth. Maybe i would have to agree with that. Hell is on earth so we need to do good to go to heaven, which is not on this earth, which u wud only get in once God has been satisfied with ur performance here on earth. If u r good and have lots of problem then perhaps God is not satisfied with you and would like to play with u more keke. Come on God!! Give the good people some break!! haha.
Frustrations.
People ask why good people die faster than the bad ones. A friend of mine answered well. (a pastor told him) He said that when good people die their function on earth has been achieved and completed. So here we all have a function in live. What is your have u asked yourself or pondered over it. I have found mine but find it hard to do it which is normal. Good things don't come easy. That is why i ask God to give me a break. I ask for help he give me problem haha funny..!!!..(:-P.
God has his plans and we have no mind to understand it. Only faith in Him will keep us going. We may plan all we want but God has the last word. Well at the same time God is not cruel he is very merciful so thank God for what u have already. :-)
ps - this is a cynical post. just to keep ur mind thinking about it for fun.
But to go to heaven or to hell one may need to simply.....die 1st... right or not??
When one does lots of good on earth blah blah blah one wud go to heaven after death. Otherwise one would go to hell. So what. In the after life one would either be eternally tormented or eternally live happily ever after.
My point is so what???
Why cant God instead of punishing those bad people on earth when on earth and reward the good people at the same while on earth instead on sentencing them after death.
Why i say this is that bad people when do bad affect others especially the good people and escape happily till they die. Probably subtlely they may encounter some hardships or some downs (God's so called punishment)but there are high chances they might not realize its a form or punishment. So whats the point then. when u r punished u ideally need to learn a lesson right but here they dont and wont. So evil prevails.
Now sadly....the good people would get more temptations with an excuse that they would become more good. But again whats the point of tempting them till death. Reward today, following day get masalah again haha. God is just having fun with us keke. Some more worse that bad people will kacau us and they would get away and we get cought.
No wonder people say hell is on earth. Maybe i would have to agree with that. Hell is on earth so we need to do good to go to heaven, which is not on this earth, which u wud only get in once God has been satisfied with ur performance here on earth. If u r good and have lots of problem then perhaps God is not satisfied with you and would like to play with u more keke. Come on God!! Give the good people some break!! haha.
Frustrations.
People ask why good people die faster than the bad ones. A friend of mine answered well. (a pastor told him) He said that when good people die their function on earth has been achieved and completed. So here we all have a function in live. What is your have u asked yourself or pondered over it. I have found mine but find it hard to do it which is normal. Good things don't come easy. That is why i ask God to give me a break. I ask for help he give me problem haha funny..!!!..(:-P.
God has his plans and we have no mind to understand it. Only faith in Him will keep us going. We may plan all we want but God has the last word. Well at the same time God is not cruel he is very merciful so thank God for what u have already. :-)
ps - this is a cynical post. just to keep ur mind thinking about it for fun.
Help or Not to Help.
yup it is a stupid question. Of cos we must help.
But today's world arr.. not as good as those days i believe.
There are more sohais around, insecure people, backstabbers,
fakers and what not.
These people may come to you for help and u may help them.
Of cos although u do not and should not accept or aspect anything in return
but what if when u need help they, don't help u back or what if they don't treat u well later?? Should u continue to help them when they ask which they will eventually?? Do you still have the heart to help them.
I have a 'friend' who once asked me for my presentation. She wanted to see how i did mine. Do u know how she asked me? "Eh Greg - was ur presentation on iron deficiency accepted by Prof Win?" (ans was a yes) Read that line again.... what does it tell u?
What if my presentation was not good would she still accept it and take a look or will she not? If she does not would that not insult me indirectly maybe directly. Yes one can argue saying that whats the point of looking at a bad presentation?? But to me, is that how u ask? where is ur manners and due respect for the one who u need help from? Furthermore wouldn't a bad presentation serve u to make a better presentation?? Anyway i did send her my presentation with a heavy heart.
Then there are irresponsible people - they will by all means try to find a book (example) and also who it belongs to and borrow it then dun return till the owner will have to go and like beg for it back? sucks right?
I wonder to these people ever think? Ever wonder if they would like it if sum1 does the same back to them? Probably the wont that's the ever shittier part.
So now help or don't? God said that He would help those who help themselves. Not to go against it because i still feel that we should help those who help themselves but arnt all those sohais out there ARE helping themselves by asking for help? How do we know if they are sincere or not or not cheating u? Its hard also hard to say No especially if u are a nice person.
Well a person who helps themselves must be sincere and humble in heartlah that is the catch behind that phrase i guess. So if u think they are being selfish should u still continue to help them? yes u are doing a good deed but at the same time u are being taken for a ride and as a joke.
I think we should not help. (:-O). Now i feel bad writing that but i feel we need to take care of our pride and dignity from those who are threatening it. No point helping a guy who cheats or is selfish. You are just doing the Devil a favor. Talk about how the Devil works. He does bad in the disguise of goodness and that is where people get trapped and confused and makes the gray area grow wider and wider when it only supposed to be a thin line. Grey areas also give a wide range of excuses for people to escape their wrong doings.
Now here comes a weird part - irony. U help some one you are made a fool off and laughed at. U dont help you are tainted as a selfish person and mocked at. So do u want to be laughed at or mocked at? haha No people is there ANY GooD now in helping?
Some might say dont bother just help - true yes many good people were mocked at when they did good - the saints and all even Jesus himself.
Put out a question for urself. Can u take the mocking like how they did. U wanna become a saint or trying to be one? U know now if u constantly be bullied around, u are going to be in a loosing end, loosing out to those sohais (:-D). Others who dont know you well, and bad, if they are those in the top post and ur future is like depends on them, wud have the tendency not to prefer u too.
Yes one can argue that good will prevail but in the mean time u have lost the opportunity and now due to that u would need to work harder to get another. comes another question is it fair??. When u r helping others are u helping urself? Should u help urself?
So when u help some one. How do you help? What is the intention of the 'friend' wanting ur help in ur mind (u maybe wrong and that might make a prob for ur friend - which i wud say oopps?!?!. Even this act can shun away authentic good people asking for help sadly - r u wrong now or not?) How much do you help?
Uhmp! doing a good deed is not as easy as it seems eh...no wonder all do bad haha..
Anging tak mengenang budi (transalated tamil proverb)
God will help those who help themselves
Good will prevail all evil
(some sayings to share related to this topic)
But today's world arr.. not as good as those days i believe.
There are more sohais around, insecure people, backstabbers,
fakers and what not.
These people may come to you for help and u may help them.
Of cos although u do not and should not accept or aspect anything in return
but what if when u need help they, don't help u back or what if they don't treat u well later?? Should u continue to help them when they ask which they will eventually?? Do you still have the heart to help them.
I have a 'friend' who once asked me for my presentation. She wanted to see how i did mine. Do u know how she asked me? "Eh Greg - was ur presentation on iron deficiency accepted by Prof Win?" (ans was a yes) Read that line again.... what does it tell u?
What if my presentation was not good would she still accept it and take a look or will she not? If she does not would that not insult me indirectly maybe directly. Yes one can argue saying that whats the point of looking at a bad presentation?? But to me, is that how u ask? where is ur manners and due respect for the one who u need help from? Furthermore wouldn't a bad presentation serve u to make a better presentation?? Anyway i did send her my presentation with a heavy heart.
Then there are irresponsible people - they will by all means try to find a book (example) and also who it belongs to and borrow it then dun return till the owner will have to go and like beg for it back? sucks right?
I wonder to these people ever think? Ever wonder if they would like it if sum1 does the same back to them? Probably the wont that's the ever shittier part.
So now help or don't? God said that He would help those who help themselves. Not to go against it because i still feel that we should help those who help themselves but arnt all those sohais out there ARE helping themselves by asking for help? How do we know if they are sincere or not or not cheating u? Its hard also hard to say No especially if u are a nice person.
Well a person who helps themselves must be sincere and humble in heartlah that is the catch behind that phrase i guess. So if u think they are being selfish should u still continue to help them? yes u are doing a good deed but at the same time u are being taken for a ride and as a joke.
I think we should not help. (:-O). Now i feel bad writing that but i feel we need to take care of our pride and dignity from those who are threatening it. No point helping a guy who cheats or is selfish. You are just doing the Devil a favor. Talk about how the Devil works. He does bad in the disguise of goodness and that is where people get trapped and confused and makes the gray area grow wider and wider when it only supposed to be a thin line. Grey areas also give a wide range of excuses for people to escape their wrong doings.
Now here comes a weird part - irony. U help some one you are made a fool off and laughed at. U dont help you are tainted as a selfish person and mocked at. So do u want to be laughed at or mocked at? haha No people is there ANY GooD now in helping?
Some might say dont bother just help - true yes many good people were mocked at when they did good - the saints and all even Jesus himself.
Put out a question for urself. Can u take the mocking like how they did. U wanna become a saint or trying to be one? U know now if u constantly be bullied around, u are going to be in a loosing end, loosing out to those sohais (:-D). Others who dont know you well, and bad, if they are those in the top post and ur future is like depends on them, wud have the tendency not to prefer u too.
Yes one can argue that good will prevail but in the mean time u have lost the opportunity and now due to that u would need to work harder to get another. comes another question is it fair??. When u r helping others are u helping urself? Should u help urself?
So when u help some one. How do you help? What is the intention of the 'friend' wanting ur help in ur mind (u maybe wrong and that might make a prob for ur friend - which i wud say oopps?!?!. Even this act can shun away authentic good people asking for help sadly - r u wrong now or not?) How much do you help?
Uhmp! doing a good deed is not as easy as it seems eh...no wonder all do bad haha..
Anging tak mengenang budi (transalated tamil proverb)
God will help those who help themselves
Good will prevail all evil
(some sayings to share related to this topic)
Saturday, April 18, 2009
Catholocism Triad
Catholics are unique in its beliefs just as all other religions are unique in its own respective ways.
we in our faith structure consist of a interdependent triad of God, Community and Self.
The fulfillment of this 3 aspect of the triad makes one a Catholic.
Many other deviations and other religions these 3 concepts are not interlinked but is just a straight line. Beginning with God - Self - Community.
Now lets look at God - Here we learn the Bible and the teachings of Christ; catechism. We believe in it. However we don't take it literally but we take it as a guide and a basic information before leaving earth. Learning the bible alone and saying our whole life must be based on the bible leaves us on a one track railway road and shuns us away from the aspect of community especially, which in the bible itself mentions we ought not too. Also it makes us become selfish as if God only belongs to oneself. (further discussed in future post on interpretations)
Self - ones characteristics, attitude, manners, discipline and all the other moral components. By learning God and His ways how much have we internalized into our daily living. How much has God shaped our life? Some one track minded people praises God on one side but on the other side (if u realize its the community) act differently. For them as long as u praise God, God would reward you. Rubbish i say. Is God so full of Himself that all u need to do to please Him is by Praising Him? But on the other side u contribute to the downfall of His work now, which He came down for us then. Example : everyday go to church and be so active but on the other side u are proud, selfish, hurtful to others. Jesus said that only through Him can they go to God the Father. Many have interpreted it literally saying that only if you belief in Jesus u go to heaven. Walau weh!! Rubbish. See how have they took God for themselves. Does this not contradict later of what Jesus says that his message is for all mankind?? We all know that Jesus thought us to Love one another just as how i have loved you - bringing to say that God is Love. If God = Jesus = Love then don't u think what he actually meant there is that If you show Love u would go to heaven.
Lastly community - Here community means the Church and your neighbors. In the church Catholics ought to follow its teachings and have faith in its structure. (of cos if the structure is defunct then dontlah but at the same time don't have to break and destroy but help fix it from within. unlike last time when it happened, now u see - all broke further and sort of lost themselves). Jesus said to Peter - upon this rock i will build my church. Rock being Peter. He said further what u say here on Earth will be regarded in heaven (something like that) and on Pentecost day he send down the Holy Spirit and set them out to spread His Message of Love. The Church consist oh highly educated religious who constantly pray and do research deepening the faith and further understanding it and therefore its results are dignified and becomes our faith. We do not follow the head or self interpretations on one particular leader. We follow One Body of 2009 yrs of spirituality solid as our faith which the foundations began from the beginning of time as stipulated by the bible.
The other community - neighbor. We ought to do charity and give alms and also do social service. God came to serve and not to be served. And that is what we should do. Serve and offer yourself to the community in whatever way u can and able too. Only then God will reward you.
God did a lot of community service so we to need to do it. But one should not do it just to Glorify God or like an eye wash or like hypocrites. But the service should come from within, and to do so u need to internalize what God has thought u through the teachings of the Church. See the triad.
This is how u evangelize not by brainwashing, showing how superior your God is over the other God's indirectly or playing nice just to attract people like adverts and publicity commercials. Later one being a sucker.
A song goes they will know we are Christians by our Love, so show your Love not parade your God and compare too.
Proud to be a Catholic [God <> Self <> Community <> God]
ps : this write up is based on a conversation between a priest and me
we in our faith structure consist of a interdependent triad of God, Community and Self.
The fulfillment of this 3 aspect of the triad makes one a Catholic.
Many other deviations and other religions these 3 concepts are not interlinked but is just a straight line. Beginning with God - Self - Community.
Now lets look at God - Here we learn the Bible and the teachings of Christ; catechism. We believe in it. However we don't take it literally but we take it as a guide and a basic information before leaving earth. Learning the bible alone and saying our whole life must be based on the bible leaves us on a one track railway road and shuns us away from the aspect of community especially, which in the bible itself mentions we ought not too. Also it makes us become selfish as if God only belongs to oneself. (further discussed in future post on interpretations)
Self - ones characteristics, attitude, manners, discipline and all the other moral components. By learning God and His ways how much have we internalized into our daily living. How much has God shaped our life? Some one track minded people praises God on one side but on the other side (if u realize its the community) act differently. For them as long as u praise God, God would reward you. Rubbish i say. Is God so full of Himself that all u need to do to please Him is by Praising Him? But on the other side u contribute to the downfall of His work now, which He came down for us then. Example : everyday go to church and be so active but on the other side u are proud, selfish, hurtful to others. Jesus said that only through Him can they go to God the Father. Many have interpreted it literally saying that only if you belief in Jesus u go to heaven. Walau weh!! Rubbish. See how have they took God for themselves. Does this not contradict later of what Jesus says that his message is for all mankind?? We all know that Jesus thought us to Love one another just as how i have loved you - bringing to say that God is Love. If God = Jesus = Love then don't u think what he actually meant there is that If you show Love u would go to heaven.
Lastly community - Here community means the Church and your neighbors. In the church Catholics ought to follow its teachings and have faith in its structure. (of cos if the structure is defunct then dontlah but at the same time don't have to break and destroy but help fix it from within. unlike last time when it happened, now u see - all broke further and sort of lost themselves). Jesus said to Peter - upon this rock i will build my church. Rock being Peter. He said further what u say here on Earth will be regarded in heaven (something like that) and on Pentecost day he send down the Holy Spirit and set them out to spread His Message of Love. The Church consist oh highly educated religious who constantly pray and do research deepening the faith and further understanding it and therefore its results are dignified and becomes our faith. We do not follow the head or self interpretations on one particular leader. We follow One Body of 2009 yrs of spirituality solid as our faith which the foundations began from the beginning of time as stipulated by the bible.
The other community - neighbor. We ought to do charity and give alms and also do social service. God came to serve and not to be served. And that is what we should do. Serve and offer yourself to the community in whatever way u can and able too. Only then God will reward you.
God did a lot of community service so we to need to do it. But one should not do it just to Glorify God or like an eye wash or like hypocrites. But the service should come from within, and to do so u need to internalize what God has thought u through the teachings of the Church. See the triad.
This is how u evangelize not by brainwashing, showing how superior your God is over the other God's indirectly or playing nice just to attract people like adverts and publicity commercials. Later one being a sucker.
A song goes they will know we are Christians by our Love, so show your Love not parade your God and compare too.
Proud to be a Catholic [God <> Self <> Community <> God]
ps : this write up is based on a conversation between a priest and me
Friday, April 17, 2009
Science and religion
Today is the 2nd Sunday of Easter. A very highly educated priest in the field on theology and philosophy particularly (line of masters and doctorates also author of few books) came and celebrated mass here in KT. (was here for holidays).
Well he gave a wonderful mass which is not always common and also a beautiful sermon altogether.
According to the readings of this Sunday he picked out 2 points which we need to ponder upon. One is reason and rationality/faith and spirituality which we use to believe in something. The other is simply law and love.
St Thomas a.k.a doubting Thomas was right in using his rationality and reason wanting to believe in Christ. - see to believe. However he fell aback to realize to believe also needs faith and spirituality. Here Jesus came say then - Happy are those who see and believe, and those who don't see yet believe. My friend and i few days ago were discussing on how and why some people (jews) who saw Jesus and his acts did not believe in him then, now in this modern world where the concepts of science and facts, see to believe thoughts, many believe in Chirst!!! Irony??
Now what as this got to do with science? Later after mass, Fr Stephen, i don't know co-incidentally or not, he was requested to give a talk for the students at the formation house and the title was science and religion. Well he did not make any connections with today's readings during the talk though. I integrated it.
Back in - nature automatically shows the glory of God and science is to understand nature. While we learn to understand nature we will eventually begin to realize the wonder of an unknown order controlling this universe. Some superior being in whatever form which i believe humans can never eventually comprehend specifically.
Many famous science Laureates like Einstein, Newton etc do believe in God although not of a specific God (making them not an atheist ok!!...)and are more spiritual then those who believe in a specific God.
Behind every door in science there is God (Angels and Demons - Dan Brown). Simple analogies Fr Stephen gave. If we arrange all the molecule in 1 liter of water we can go the moon and come back 7 times!!!!!!!!!!. Can u comprehend that?? here is another. In an atom there are many spaces - spaces between electrons and the nucleus. In the nucleus between the protons and neutrons and other subatomic particles. If this is the case why cant we put our hand through the table?? The inability to do so is because of the gazillion number of atoms so closely packed it is strong enough, also has enough energy to hold themselves together. Another - How a brain works; conscious and a soul and feeling??
So there are many things which is uncomprehending by science even in the theory of evolution which they got everything right except the missing parts in it and yet some still believe and that needs faith.
The bible does not give much details of these uncomprehandble stuff but it does mention the wonders of it. (psalm ... - forgot which :-P).
A question was posed to him - does scientist believe in the bible - answer is depends on which interpretation. The bible can be interpreted literally (solar Scriptura - also like how the Muslims take their Quran) or by reality which we Catholics don't. If taken literally then in the book of genesis of cos the scientist wont believe but in reality of which i think is the order of creation(process) then is believable. How can there be life without water, air and light (oklah maybe not light). Water air and land and light needs to come first right? Takkan u want man to be created 1st??
Another of cos comes the theory of evolution - according to him there are truths in this theory but there are many missing elements in it which is not explained by Darwin for simply the theory cannot meet the concept of evolution. Furthermore he says the church is sort of becoming soft in this theory although not accepting it fully. Perhaps God as given a single cell the various capabilities to mature and specialize into later. Time was taken and step by step each capability of this single cell has evolved into the world we see today.
The of cos comes cloning etc etc - it is not only the matter of playing God which is in dispute but the exploitation and de-dignifying of the usage of clones the church is against. we may be able to create a clone human but will it have a soul, feeling and those uncomprehandable stuff which science cannot explain of human biology? Probably a living robot will be made. Even that if it is made it comes the issue of ethics - is it still human? if yes - how can we exploit them later for organs etc etc.
It is very interesting. Fusion of science and God - spirituality. Facts and faith.
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Law and love - God gave us law because he loves us. Analogy - A child runs to the mother and kisses her and says u are the best mummy in the world and the rest are dummies. The mother puts her child down and says, ' yeah yeah...u say like that but never listen to me'. The part : listen to me = law. So what is the point to love but u don't listen nor follow. What and where is your love and devotion and loyalty is?? 'No need to follow the law but i still love u'. Hypocrisy? Is it like lets make fired kueh teiow but with no kueh tieow.
how do we show love then? Materials? How long would it last? It may buy u if u are cheap. But look at the difference made and compare it - the response - if u follow the law, rules and listen to them to show your love and giving materials. Go deep to see the response and not only see the superficial. This i believe is in any relationship among humans.
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done for the day
Well he gave a wonderful mass which is not always common and also a beautiful sermon altogether.
According to the readings of this Sunday he picked out 2 points which we need to ponder upon. One is reason and rationality/faith and spirituality which we use to believe in something. The other is simply law and love.
St Thomas a.k.a doubting Thomas was right in using his rationality and reason wanting to believe in Christ. - see to believe. However he fell aback to realize to believe also needs faith and spirituality. Here Jesus came say then - Happy are those who see and believe, and those who don't see yet believe. My friend and i few days ago were discussing on how and why some people (jews) who saw Jesus and his acts did not believe in him then, now in this modern world where the concepts of science and facts, see to believe thoughts, many believe in Chirst!!! Irony??
Now what as this got to do with science? Later after mass, Fr Stephen, i don't know co-incidentally or not, he was requested to give a talk for the students at the formation house and the title was science and religion. Well he did not make any connections with today's readings during the talk though. I integrated it.
Back in - nature automatically shows the glory of God and science is to understand nature. While we learn to understand nature we will eventually begin to realize the wonder of an unknown order controlling this universe. Some superior being in whatever form which i believe humans can never eventually comprehend specifically.
Many famous science Laureates like Einstein, Newton etc do believe in God although not of a specific God (making them not an atheist ok!!...)and are more spiritual then those who believe in a specific God.
Behind every door in science there is God (Angels and Demons - Dan Brown). Simple analogies Fr Stephen gave. If we arrange all the molecule in 1 liter of water we can go the moon and come back 7 times!!!!!!!!!!. Can u comprehend that?? here is another. In an atom there are many spaces - spaces between electrons and the nucleus. In the nucleus between the protons and neutrons and other subatomic particles. If this is the case why cant we put our hand through the table?? The inability to do so is because of the gazillion number of atoms so closely packed it is strong enough, also has enough energy to hold themselves together. Another - How a brain works; conscious and a soul and feeling??
So there are many things which is uncomprehending by science even in the theory of evolution which they got everything right except the missing parts in it and yet some still believe and that needs faith.
The bible does not give much details of these uncomprehandble stuff but it does mention the wonders of it. (psalm ... - forgot which :-P).
A question was posed to him - does scientist believe in the bible - answer is depends on which interpretation. The bible can be interpreted literally (solar Scriptura - also like how the Muslims take their Quran) or by reality which we Catholics don't. If taken literally then in the book of genesis of cos the scientist wont believe but in reality of which i think is the order of creation(process) then is believable. How can there be life without water, air and light (oklah maybe not light). Water air and land and light needs to come first right? Takkan u want man to be created 1st??
Another of cos comes the theory of evolution - according to him there are truths in this theory but there are many missing elements in it which is not explained by Darwin for simply the theory cannot meet the concept of evolution. Furthermore he says the church is sort of becoming soft in this theory although not accepting it fully. Perhaps God as given a single cell the various capabilities to mature and specialize into later. Time was taken and step by step each capability of this single cell has evolved into the world we see today.
The of cos comes cloning etc etc - it is not only the matter of playing God which is in dispute but the exploitation and de-dignifying of the usage of clones the church is against. we may be able to create a clone human but will it have a soul, feeling and those uncomprehandable stuff which science cannot explain of human biology? Probably a living robot will be made. Even that if it is made it comes the issue of ethics - is it still human? if yes - how can we exploit them later for organs etc etc.
It is very interesting. Fusion of science and God - spirituality. Facts and faith.
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Law and love - God gave us law because he loves us. Analogy - A child runs to the mother and kisses her and says u are the best mummy in the world and the rest are dummies. The mother puts her child down and says, ' yeah yeah...u say like that but never listen to me'. The part : listen to me = law. So what is the point to love but u don't listen nor follow. What and where is your love and devotion and loyalty is?? 'No need to follow the law but i still love u'. Hypocrisy? Is it like lets make fired kueh teiow but with no kueh tieow.
how do we show love then? Materials? How long would it last? It may buy u if u are cheap. But look at the difference made and compare it - the response - if u follow the law, rules and listen to them to show your love and giving materials. Go deep to see the response and not only see the superficial. This i believe is in any relationship among humans.
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done for the day
Friday, April 10, 2009
Gender '='lity
I was at ICG 07, St Anne Penang and there they had a session on gender equality.
It was humorous to me when this workshop was conducted. Boys and gals were splitted separately and then divided into smaller groups. Now each group was to list down the characteristics/qualities of a women/man that they would like to see, conveniently husbandslah. First at the beginning of this session the women were blasting the men about what ladies could do. Basically women can do what man can. The guys were quiet. The women broke the gender curtain in the discussion and the men lost. But now back to the workshop the women in the end listed down the qualities of men genderly defined for them and of cos the men happily listed down the gender defined characteristics of a lady. So ladies if u can do what man can do then why need them?? The fight for gender equality is actually supposed to be like the fight against discrimination.....read on....
Why r we fighting for gender equality?? Or may i say, what do we expect from from gender equality?? The way it is going it is like man n woman are swapping roles in society. Is it right? What we should be thinking is how far we should fight for gender equality. Of course equality should be practiced but our basic human fundamental role must not be forgotten. Why is there man and woman in this world then? Why did God create us such away? There must be a reason. If we r to be equal then why do we have opposites? It is to complement each other's role that is why there are opposites. Do you know the Ying n Yang - that explains it all. Even in the yin n yang the white area has a define black spot and the black area has a define white spot. Is there gray(equal amount of black n white)? So how far is the equality going too? The equality we should be fighting for is the equality man made and not god made. Fundamental gender arises as the manifestation of the biological sex capability and function. So we cant run away from gender issues or in away tag the usage of the term gender to be insensitive to the opposite sex. In a relationship between peoples there needs to be complementation's and equality to express that complements. What build us Humans? DNA - Do u know that DNA strands are not equal but 2 complementary stands but it needs to be equally divided to produce the next generation of cells. A complementary relationship provides room for growth so we can make better, make richer and grow in love in the relationship. When we are equal, what is there to grow? We are placed in this world to grow not stop and be equal. Even the division of DNA is know as semi-conservative division where 1 complement pair strand divides and form 2 single strands which is completed by formation of a new strand finally forming 2 new pairs. (replication process). As one may read this they will still be strong on the equality so here now i put it simple. A man does what a man does - everyone already knows what he does.(role wise). The woman can do anything she wants, even get a phd - no problem but their role as a Mother, Wife and binder of a family should not be forgotten. If the person says here the woman is more superior then the man so the man should take care of the family. Where is equality? Now it is superiority and inferiority matter. Know u see it looks like equality is gender biased itself more towards women. Contradiction! Can u achieve total equality in this gender issue? NO! Go back to ICG during the talk about gender equality. The participants were asked to differentiate between gender and sex. Then questions were posted so to make us aware of the gender issues which is not equal. It was said the man can also do what is usually gender define a woman should do. The woman can do what the man can do. Later what we were asked to do is to list out the qualities one would want in a husband or wife. Hahaha. It was all gender qualities! The girls wanted a husband genderly defined and the guys wanted a wife genderly defined. If what a man or woman can do what the opposite sex does then??? So yes there are dads who play the motherly role but how many? What is the proportion? Can be said insignificant. Exceptions are always there. Aren't we living in an imperfect world?? Women being a complement to man is already equal.
" Woman was created from the rib of man, not from his head to top him, neither from his feet to be walked upon. She was made from his side to be his equal, from beneath his arms to be protected by him, and from very near his heart to be loved by him." (author unknown)
It was humorous to me when this workshop was conducted. Boys and gals were splitted separately and then divided into smaller groups. Now each group was to list down the characteristics/qualities of a women/man that they would like to see, conveniently husbandslah. First at the beginning of this session the women were blasting the men about what ladies could do. Basically women can do what man can. The guys were quiet. The women broke the gender curtain in the discussion and the men lost. But now back to the workshop the women in the end listed down the qualities of men genderly defined for them and of cos the men happily listed down the gender defined characteristics of a lady. So ladies if u can do what man can do then why need them?? The fight for gender equality is actually supposed to be like the fight against discrimination.....read on....
Why r we fighting for gender equality?? Or may i say, what do we expect from from gender equality?? The way it is going it is like man n woman are swapping roles in society. Is it right? What we should be thinking is how far we should fight for gender equality. Of course equality should be practiced but our basic human fundamental role must not be forgotten. Why is there man and woman in this world then? Why did God create us such away? There must be a reason. If we r to be equal then why do we have opposites? It is to complement each other's role that is why there are opposites. Do you know the Ying n Yang - that explains it all. Even in the yin n yang the white area has a define black spot and the black area has a define white spot. Is there gray(equal amount of black n white)? So how far is the equality going too? The equality we should be fighting for is the equality man made and not god made. Fundamental gender arises as the manifestation of the biological sex capability and function. So we cant run away from gender issues or in away tag the usage of the term gender to be insensitive to the opposite sex. In a relationship between peoples there needs to be complementation's and equality to express that complements. What build us Humans? DNA - Do u know that DNA strands are not equal but 2 complementary stands but it needs to be equally divided to produce the next generation of cells. A complementary relationship provides room for growth so we can make better, make richer and grow in love in the relationship. When we are equal, what is there to grow? We are placed in this world to grow not stop and be equal. Even the division of DNA is know as semi-conservative division where 1 complement pair strand divides and form 2 single strands which is completed by formation of a new strand finally forming 2 new pairs. (replication process). As one may read this they will still be strong on the equality so here now i put it simple. A man does what a man does - everyone already knows what he does.(role wise). The woman can do anything she wants, even get a phd - no problem but their role as a Mother, Wife and binder of a family should not be forgotten. If the person says here the woman is more superior then the man so the man should take care of the family. Where is equality? Now it is superiority and inferiority matter. Know u see it looks like equality is gender biased itself more towards women. Contradiction! Can u achieve total equality in this gender issue? NO! Go back to ICG during the talk about gender equality. The participants were asked to differentiate between gender and sex. Then questions were posted so to make us aware of the gender issues which is not equal. It was said the man can also do what is usually gender define a woman should do. The woman can do what the man can do. Later what we were asked to do is to list out the qualities one would want in a husband or wife. Hahaha. It was all gender qualities! The girls wanted a husband genderly defined and the guys wanted a wife genderly defined. If what a man or woman can do what the opposite sex does then??? So yes there are dads who play the motherly role but how many? What is the proportion? Can be said insignificant. Exceptions are always there. Aren't we living in an imperfect world?? Women being a complement to man is already equal.
" Woman was created from the rib of man, not from his head to top him, neither from his feet to be walked upon. She was made from his side to be his equal, from beneath his arms to be protected by him, and from very near his heart to be loved by him." (author unknown)
Alpha
Today is Good Friday 10th April 2009.
Miss the celebration at home with family
especially the banana leave lunch we would have together before
we go down to celebrate the solemnity of Jesus Death.
Was contemplating for a long time whether to start a blog or not.
I was against the idea of it till i told myself why dont just give it
a try. A registered this blog last November. After reading another
friend's blog of mine a few days ago, it gave me the push.
I would be writing about my thoughts in this blog, thoughts about
what i witness and experience in my life. It would be dull to many but maybe
of enlightenment to a few but i hope i would be able to shine a light of a
different perspective of thought. I dont follow the crowd like many do. I have my own
way of thinking and school of though which u would definitely not find in any books.
Anyway below is my 1st post. wrote it when i organized a forum on leadership among campuses in the KL Archdiocese. Well of cos i din read the whole paper but i just summarized it.
Miss the celebration at home with family
especially the banana leave lunch we would have together before
we go down to celebrate the solemnity of Jesus Death.
Was contemplating for a long time whether to start a blog or not.
I was against the idea of it till i told myself why dont just give it
a try. A registered this blog last November. After reading another
friend's blog of mine a few days ago, it gave me the push.
I would be writing about my thoughts in this blog, thoughts about
what i witness and experience in my life. It would be dull to many but maybe
of enlightenment to a few but i hope i would be able to shine a light of a
different perspective of thought. I dont follow the crowd like many do. I have my own
way of thinking and school of though which u would definitely not find in any books.
Anyway below is my 1st post. wrote it when i organized a forum on leadership among campuses in the KL Archdiocese. Well of cos i din read the whole paper but i just summarized it.
Leadership
As time go by people change. And all these people are being lead some how or rather; by the government to the head of the family. In respect to that, the kind of leadership has also changed with time. The kind of leadership depends on the people who they are leading however the principals of leadership are the same. What differ are the styles, systems and the mechanics of it. As civilization grows so are the maturities of the leadership. To simply put in those days if a king has a dispute with another kingdom he just attacks. But now it is by diplomacy, though at times war is still apparent.
Having a constant changing human thought process how are we to deal with this as a leader. Let us start by the leader himself carrying the baton of leadership. The leader’s mentality, attitude and approach and management.
As time go by people change. And all these people are being lead some how or rather; by the government to the head of the family. In respect to that, the kind of leadership has also changed with time. The kind of leadership depends on the people who they are leading however the principals of leadership are the same. What differ are the styles, systems and the mechanics of it. As civilization grows so are the maturities of the leadership. To simply put in those days if a king has a dispute with another kingdom he just attacks. But now it is by diplomacy, though at times war is still apparent.
Having a constant changing human thought process how are we to deal with this as a leader. Let us start by the leader himself carrying the baton of leadership. The leader’s mentality, attitude and approach and management.
Part 1
Leadership is a leader on a ship. The faith of the ship lays rest on the captain on the ship. It is a big responsibility once one becomes a leader and the role needs to be taken with respect and appreciation by the leader especially and also by the followers. It should not be taken as a burden but should be taken with pride and dignity. If one thinks it as a burden then one should not lead as this will not only benefit the person oneself but most importantly the followers for they will be relieved off the burden shown and thrown upon by the ‘burdened’ leader. A leader should not think for ones own benefit but the benefit of the group one is leading. If the leader ones to do that, then it is better to lead himself alone then to make use of his followers.
When one becomes a leader one has to (if accepted the role) take it has a challenge, a learning opportunity and an opportunity to serve. Jesus is our leader and how did he lead? He served us. He came to serve and not to be served. A good leader is a good server. In leading you are to benefit your followers and not to lead them astray.
But being humans temptations are there to make use the position as a leader to do selfish stuff or expecting a reward which is rightful with all the hard work done. Well don’t aspect for it. The thought of it will be there but don’t aspect it nor crave for it. You will get it if you deserve it at times without yourself realizing. A way God rewards you for your good work and you will be rewarded though at times in different ways not expected.
Perseverance. One will receive a goody bag of struggles being a leader. What do you do with it? Well enjoy it. Isn’t it a ‘goody bag’? You will have lots of it especially when you are leading a social/community based organization basically like doing church work. (Why? It is another topic) How to go about it then? Sacrifice. Jesus persevered and in the end He sacrificed for us. Didn’t He not? When you become a leader you need to sacrifice, if not, your whole team will be sacrificed by you yourself. Here we can say that what you are, decides mostly what your team will be and how it goes. When you are doing God’s work then you cannot run away.
Sounds scary? Well if you look at it that way then you one to be a leader without wanting to serve like being a doctor without wanting to treat patients.
A leader should not give up as it is better to lose. Ho Chi Minh once said to the Americans, “For every 7 Viet Kong you kill we will kill one American but we will still win the war”. They did. What if he had given up? Therefore it is better to put up a struggle or fight and lose, then to lose or give up in vain without doing anything. Despite losing, in it there is winning. What wining? Well it is in identifying your mistakes and not repeating them. You learn thus grow eventually. A good leader is not how he starts but how he ends. When fallen, get up, brush off the dust and walk straight, but remember how you fell. Even the enemy will salute you. Remember the movie, The Last Samurai? The part, where all (the white lead army) bowed after killing all the samurai.
Basically the leader should know what one is heading to; the challenges, the demands, your performance and the expectations and the responsibility at hand. One has to set ones mind clear on all those. Don’t go in blindly. One has to live up to it, if cants then don’t be a leader. But at least allow yourself to try, for everyone can become, and are potential leaders. One cannot run away for one will become a leader more than once definitely in their lives.
Part 2
Discipline, being a role modal, knowing how to carry oneself, bold, brave but in all humble. Those are some of the characteristics a leader should have basically of what I see but of course there is more than that. When people know you are a leader there are expectations which you need to meet. If not you would not be respected and not followed so in the end who are you going to lead. It is difficult and at times you might not be doing what you want or like or not to your interest. When you become a doctor you are expected to know it all although it is impossible but thus it should not be an excuse not to even try to know more. That is meeting expectations. People look up to you when you are some kind of leader in society therefore do you want to disappoint them?
It is said a good king is like his subjects. How then is to be a leader? Be like his subjects? Well a leader has authority and power but it is how and when he uses it. In every action taken by leader, it should not be done in the name of authority and power. Simply saying like being a dictator. There should be democracy. One should lead the idea of the team and not lead the team to an idea. And the idea is the agreed one from a meeting. Within a team authority and power should be used to control, steer and to get the idea worked. It is used to follow the objectives and not for self use.
One should treat the followers with respect and dignity for without them you have no role. One also should listen to all the followers’ opinions and try to understand them. It is of receiving input, collating, and analyzing them to set up a wholesome understanding of ones followers’ situation and environment and thoughts. This makes it easier to lead and future decision making will be better. It is like finding a formula.
Playing politics is very tricky and may get dirty and should be avoided when possible. The one that should play the politics is the leader himself. Another word is creating the strategy. If every follower plays politics there would not be unity and thus division will ensure. Even worst is having difficulty to run activities due to sabotages, uncooperativeness’ and having thorns in the meat. Every leader has a style and the followers should follow it if it is fulfilling the objectives. At times it may not be agreeable to you and it is to you. So as long as the objectives are up hold then it is ok. If not the duty is to inform the leader of his inappropriate style or change in a democratic way. The leader only, playing the politics is like playing the puppet which has many strings to control. He has to ensure there is coordination and task dispersion to the right people should be done based on merits and not favoritism. He creates a strategy, a picture or a chess play sending in the right pieces first to win the game.
A leader needs to maintain peace and stability of his followers too. Prevent and settle and not make conflicts. In doing so one needs to understand followers’ feelings and try to know what they are thinking and what will be their moves. Once in a while go and ask how they are, what do they think… . Be concern and sensitive. It is good as it maintains a good repot with your followers.
So here basically the leader needs to be a good driver, steering the followers to a right path into achieving a goal. Have a positive, fair, well informed mind in attitude and approach.
Part 3
A good leader is not how he starts but how he ends. To repeat this phrase, bringing it into the context of management. It is easy to start something as everyone is hyped up in doing so but haven’t you heard of the lamp dying off? So it is the maintenance of what begun counts. It all starts by having a vision then beginning a mission. To run the mission a set of objectives needs to be lined up with a theme which is a summary of your mission. Having all the ingredients then create the backbone and structure of your organization.
Creating the backbone is controlled by certain factors, which depends on the type of followers you are leading. So you need to see with what people you are dealing with then based on that you need to identify what they need and how they need to be lead.
Everyone today is educated and not easily fooled and worst of all materialistic and self centered. So how are you going to deal with them? More over people will only work when they know they will be rewarded or benefited. Therefore less rewarding task is lower ranked in the priority list. Why? Is it wrong to want a reward? Actually it is not but what is actually happening nowadays is that they want the assurance of a reward before they began work. If look closer it is the same as bribery. Gone were the days, I think where only when you work hard you will be rewarded. Passion is lost. So we are being ended up as robots. How this has come about is another topic. How much reward do you need to show your best? The whole world? Well, then you will never be able to show your best nor know you can do better @ have grown and matured. They might end up chasing something which is not there.
What is not realized is that the reward is an intellectual joy/ self satisfaction which once you have you are totally in control of your surroundings. It is a primary happiness which is explained by Socrates.
If your followers are like that then how are you going to lead them in a task which there is no materialistic reward? It is difficult of course. It would not be surprising if your team won’t last.
Follow the flow of your followers. Do what they want to do and lead them in it. Then it might work because it is all psychology. People have face and pride right? So if your followers are people of their word then they would have to do what they want to do in a team to save face right? It might sound proxy here but look at the situation. Use evil to do good or are we changing that evil into good?
Here now basically is that you have to lay the foundation and draw out a plan for which then your followers will built and your future leaders will improve continue and thus evolve and the organization to grow and mature. In anything you do it is not worthy if you do not seek improvement or growth.
Leadership now is not in an ideal situation. We are now not leading a team but individuals of different minds and interest. That is why a direction is important to start a journey. To drive the engine on the tract, people who have agreed to that direction can do it. All we can do is provide the tract on the direction and who wants to join can do so but those who don’t we can’t do anything. Even if we want to then our tracts and directions will have to keep on changing. But at this level (CSS) it is very difficult to do so.
If you realize the Church has done this already. I just realized it myself while writing this. There are many religious orders right? All of them have different approach to God and to do His service. Example:
Becoming a leader is difficult especially when you are leading a non profit or non rewarding organization. However there are of course times when luck is on our side. But still maintaining it is another thing. All one can do is first respect what you are doing and do your best you can. God willing your hard work will be paid off.
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