2 videos : http://www.ucatholic.com/apologetics/18/ and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUdYeYy3NQA.
A protestant friend argued these and these are my arguments back.
ust to let u know some thoughts i have about the video that u posted
the video about Mary...was a bit skeptical i feel...
Mary is not the only one Jesus called as Woman....in John chapter 4, Jesus called the samaritan woman "Woman" as well
& the 'woman' in revelations chapter 12 is not referring to Mary as well although in verse 2 it says it laboured & delivers the child (Jesus)
if u read verse one, it says the woman with the sun & moon & the 12th stars...
the sun & moon appears in jacob dream in genesis as the promise land & the 12th stars is the 12 tribes of Israel...
because Jesus Himself is a descendant of David whom is a descendant of one of the 12 tribes
so the Woman mentioned ther is "Israel"
my response ::: Revelations
- women can be viewed in 3 ways :
yes – Israel
Mother Mary – in literal terms
The Catholic church (the only church of that time)
1st we need to look at the book of revelation as a whole
Why/when/how was it written
– when the book was written it was during the time of persecution under the Romans. So to give HOPE to the people and at the same time to continue to DECIMATE the word of God to them without being detected by the Romans it was written in Greek in very descriptive language. Hope that good will prevail over evil.
Many argue today that this book is about the REAL end of the world but its actually not. The prophecy did not go as far as that but just as far as the ‘future’ reign of emperor Nero. This book dates between the time of Emperor Domitions and Nero.
Now we look at it in the perspective that the woman is Israel.
- if it were Israel then the writer is talking about the past and as u have said those symbols are as per mentioned. Then lets c how Israel fits in further….
Book of rev written for present times (time of when it was written) and Christ has already risen therefore why should he go back to the past?
Verse 10 :
//And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: Now has come salvation and strength and the kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ : because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth, who accused them before our God day and night.//
The underline verse = the kingdom of God and the power of his Christ.
The word Kingdom : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08646a.htm (short oni can read one :P)
The word HIS – an institution/body
If it were Israel – at that time the kingdom of God has not come (the old testament awaits the coming of the kingdom of God)
Reading further verse 11 : And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of the testimony: and they loved not their lives unto death.
The word they : Israel overcame by the blood of the lamb? Lamb as we know is Jesus the sacrificial lamb @ the greatest sacrifice. They refers to the Kingdom of God (rules) and to the HIS (the body/institution)
The other verses it mentions about desert/wilderness. Since rev was written in greek the word desert carried different meaning : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04749a.htm
Now we look in the perspective of Mary – literal and also the church
It is interesting to note that how good the writer has interwoven literal meaning and figurative meaning together.
: A woman... The church of God. It may also, by allusion, be applied to our blessed Lady. The church is clothed with the sun, that is, with Christ: she hath the moon, that is, the changeable things of the world, under her feet: and the twelve stars with which she is crowned, are the twelve apostles: she is in labour and pain, whilst she brings forth her children, and Christ in them, in the midst of afflictions and persecutions.
As mentioned as the above statement the number 12 are the 12 apostles. Crown of 12 stars. The church regards Mary as the Queen of the church as well Queen of heavens, therefore bearing a crown. At that time of writing the apostles were still alive (if not all) and they together with Mary received the Holy spirit on Pentecost.
Furthermore it has repeated mention about pain and delivering and ‘her son’ as like an emphasis perhaps not to confuse with her being Israel.
The further verses can be explained as above under ‘perspective of Israel’ .
Further readings on Mary : http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm
there are many subheadings so u can read which one interest you lah.
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another point he argues :
the verse whr Jesus said "behold, here is your mother" to be honest, i'm not very clear on this....u can see it in 2 ways act...
one is that Jesus is telling the disciples that Mary is their mother, & another way is that Jesus is teaching the disciples to honor & respect their parents...
my response :::: At the cross Jesus tells John behold thy mother. U said as this to mean asking his disciples to honor father and mother. At that time there was no father figure there involved. And so Jesus entrust John to make her a room.
Also at that time when Jesus said that most (all I think except John) of the apostles ran away so I guess its not a good time for lessons, furthermore the lesson of honoring your father and mother is not something new but already well known since the time of the 10 commandment and does not serve a purpose at the time of crucifixation to remind it. Such a purpose is out of place.
As Mary was so strong of a person, a person who can withstand seeing her Son being crucified she would too become the strength to the apostles.
Coming to honoring father and mother. Jesus honors his Mother, obeys her despite he not wanting too (wedding at Cana – my time has not yet come……. Do as he says), therefore the church follows suit to also honor her and with that confidence (cana) we believe when we ask Mary to pray for us, God will hear too.
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another point ::::: And Mary herself is not w/o sin....
She is just a human being...like us....it's just that God had chosen her to bear Jesus....
She's the virgin Mary...but not the sinless Mary
my response ::: Mary is just a women. No she not just a women. Blessed are you amongst women …… (the annunciation … Angel Gabriel).
: luke 1, 28-29 : And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you: blessed are you among women. 29 Who having heard, was troubled at his saying and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.
In verse 29 she thought to herself what MANNER of salutation ….
In verse 48 : Because he has regarded the humility of his handmaid: for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. And this is what the Church is doing.
The word blessed is not simply used on people.
: check the dictionary. Could not copy and paste those meanings :P
I don’t think God would just pick any women to bear His Son …. For a Son of God to be born of a woman would not the women be from a special pick??? Like in the video Mary was likened to the 2nd Eve who was also born without sin. So she too would be only rightfully be protected from God to be without sin. And she remained so.
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another point ::: Mary is not the only one Jesus called as Woman....in John chapter 4, Jesus called the samaritan woman "Woman" as well
my response :::Referring to the lady in Samaria as women – the women was not named, so how else to call her or to even write what name should the author have used? (giving respect to how females were called in that time, language and other circumstances). Jesus knew who was Mary why still call her women then?
so well thats all ... happy reading.
Friday, October 15, 2010
Tuesday, October 12, 2010
Me, Myself and I
This is according to a Chinese astrology about me and i feel its soo true! It was in Chinese and i got it translated. It needed my time of birth, DOB and my name.
He is quite steadfast and reliable
Appreciates girls that are intelligent, has a good judgement and can
handle household chores well, can help him govern a family, gives him a
feeling of stability, so that he has no other worries and is able to
put everything into his career. After he goes home he wants to have a
wife to talk openly with him, and give him mental and emotional support.
Once in a relationship, will be very possessive and have lots of limits
.Therefore this kind of guy can be said as a guaranteed safe, model
good husband.
Has more mature looks,solid stature, a strong character,and can
adapt well.Strong sense of responsibility,caring and willing to be of
service,warm, gives people a sense of security .Willing to take the
initiative, can be quite blunt, proud(care about face) ,worry too much and bad
tempered at times.
OoOoOoOoO
He is quite steadfast and reliable
Appreciates girls that are intelligent, has a good judgement and can
handle household chores well, can help him govern a family, gives him a
feeling of stability, so that he has no other worries and is able to
put everything into his career. After he goes home he wants to have a
wife to talk openly with him, and give him mental and emotional support.
Once in a relationship, will be very possessive and have lots of limits
.Therefore this kind of guy can be said as a guaranteed safe, model
good husband.
Has more mature looks,solid stature, a strong character,and can
adapt well.Strong sense of responsibility,caring and willing to be of
service,warm, gives people a sense of security .Willing to take the
initiative, can be quite blunt, proud(care about face) ,worry too much and bad
tempered at times.
OoOoOoOoO
Lost Friends
I feel weird. Do close friendships last? They do supposedly. Why are they not close now, perhaps life has drifted them away far away from me? Or since i am a student i got more time to spare to keep in touch compared to them? I hope that last question is true.
I have many friends, many of them actually come and go, few only have stood beside ever since i was in my younger days till now that oso not all.
When i was in CSS active and all, i got many friends some were happy to have a fren like me so much so they have expressed it through their mails thanking me many times and also over msn and stuff. (not bragging n nothing about gf bf issues here) They became close and we did work closely together. We enjoyed it. I was glad i had been a good fren to others and also glad to have them as fren for they too have tought me alot. So i also tot that our friendship would last but it did not happen.
On the contrary they have now drifted away from keeping in touch. No more replies to mails, no more hi over msn or sms. What happen uh? Did i do something wrong or have I become of no use to them or were they faking it and do not know how to cherish those gud times? Or perhaps they wud say their life moved on? Even if it moves on i dont c anything wrong in catching up right?? Once in awhile keeping in touch or so.
I am also surprised that those who were not so close as compared to the others instead keep in touch with me although we have not met for a loooong time face to face. To my surprise there are those who seeked me to be fren keeps in touch with me more often, and i have met that person only once! that oso i still cant remember!
What is going on? Is there something wrong or is this just natural??
I think its due to work - TIME the usual devil. Cos those people i mentioned are already working and perhaps they feel i m just a student so a gap has been created. Hahah work oso i am still elder then some of them. Some are working and still keeping in touch!
Sometimes i also wonder - some of these guys who are keeping in touch with me - how long more will they do so??? How much should i keep them in heart so that later i wont get hurt or disappointed.
Should i treat them as case to case basis, when they smile i smile when they dont i dont?
Keeping in touch are at least a couple of months once would give each other positive energy and encouragement whereby you will know you were not forgotten and the sense of appreciation of past close friendships are still remembered. So i feel keeping in touch is important.
haha some people suddenly become close then suddenly dissapear. sigh ....
How am i to reciprocrate. Guess i should go with the flowlah.
It was written somewhere that i would have only few stedfast friends and i guess that would be good enough for me.
hahha sometimes i want to talk crap with them oso cannot end up talking serious stuff pulak ... dahlah org panggil aku uncle huhuh hehe
Is it difficult to hold on onto relationships till at times u get tired ... and want to drift away ...? Or does people think staying in a relationship (not gf bf) is like holding back oneself or getting oneself tied up to the other?
Well all i am asking is to keep in touchlah and dont get the feeling of being forgotten despite all the apraisals given when we were together. Makes them fake pulak d.
But i softlah - wont go hard on them perhaps they just busy.
I have many friends, many of them actually come and go, few only have stood beside ever since i was in my younger days till now that oso not all.
When i was in CSS active and all, i got many friends some were happy to have a fren like me so much so they have expressed it through their mails thanking me many times and also over msn and stuff. (not bragging n nothing about gf bf issues here) They became close and we did work closely together. We enjoyed it. I was glad i had been a good fren to others and also glad to have them as fren for they too have tought me alot. So i also tot that our friendship would last but it did not happen.
On the contrary they have now drifted away from keeping in touch. No more replies to mails, no more hi over msn or sms. What happen uh? Did i do something wrong or have I become of no use to them or were they faking it and do not know how to cherish those gud times? Or perhaps they wud say their life moved on? Even if it moves on i dont c anything wrong in catching up right?? Once in awhile keeping in touch or so.
I am also surprised that those who were not so close as compared to the others instead keep in touch with me although we have not met for a loooong time face to face. To my surprise there are those who seeked me to be fren keeps in touch with me more often, and i have met that person only once! that oso i still cant remember!
What is going on? Is there something wrong or is this just natural??
I think its due to work - TIME the usual devil. Cos those people i mentioned are already working and perhaps they feel i m just a student so a gap has been created. Hahah work oso i am still elder then some of them. Some are working and still keeping in touch!
Sometimes i also wonder - some of these guys who are keeping in touch with me - how long more will they do so??? How much should i keep them in heart so that later i wont get hurt or disappointed.
Should i treat them as case to case basis, when they smile i smile when they dont i dont?
Keeping in touch are at least a couple of months once would give each other positive energy and encouragement whereby you will know you were not forgotten and the sense of appreciation of past close friendships are still remembered. So i feel keeping in touch is important.
haha some people suddenly become close then suddenly dissapear. sigh ....
How am i to reciprocrate. Guess i should go with the flowlah.
It was written somewhere that i would have only few stedfast friends and i guess that would be good enough for me.
hahha sometimes i want to talk crap with them oso cannot end up talking serious stuff pulak ... dahlah org panggil aku uncle huhuh hehe
Is it difficult to hold on onto relationships till at times u get tired ... and want to drift away ...? Or does people think staying in a relationship (not gf bf) is like holding back oneself or getting oneself tied up to the other?
Well all i am asking is to keep in touchlah and dont get the feeling of being forgotten despite all the apraisals given when we were together. Makes them fake pulak d.
But i softlah - wont go hard on them perhaps they just busy.
GHKL the Great
was in HKL doing my electives for 1 month from June 13 to July 9. It was a great experience but i hope it wud stay that why cos i dun have the interest to go and work there. U r a kind of a stranger do your own work kind but well i may just know less.
HKL patient vise has of cos a greater variety coming from different creed compared to HSNZ. U got foreigners, malays indians and what not. Even the doctors also there are of all races. In addition you would come across suicide cases, homeless, jailbirds.
And of cos there is also a variety of diseases compared to HSNZ. I saw tetanus, reynauds. In the ward i was in is like a dumpster ward where all types of cases get admitted in there first only later distributed around to respective wards. So u can see psychiatric cases, GI cases incl hepatobiliary, even ortho. optha
Condition of ward HSNZ is better - less cramped, not like a market and not as hot. In HKL there are many cases of Hospital acquired pneumonia - whats there to wonder when it is so obvious that the ventilation is poor there. Also tak ceria, gloomy. One can faint there, so better have breakfast before work.
Doctors staff there are friendly and u wud get help when u ask. U can go anywhere provided ur basic courtesy is there to ask permission and greet. Altough they are nice better dont play around.
We meet other students from other uni who are also doing their electives there - AIMST, Liverpool, UPM, UKM - we did exchange a few words and stuff but they were busy with their own stuff.
What we do there is basically the same as what we do here in HSNZ - we followed ward rounds, clerked cases, did procedures (depends on ur supervisors) and sometimes helped doctors with some of their task including clerking and calling patients relatives.
Had the experience of helping a doctor to find a psychiatric patient next of kin by calling a list of number he gave. Yes - could have just called Jabatan Kebajikan but they wud take a week and more paperwork so to avoid that.... .
There the patient is seriously in you hands and you are expected to do everything for the patient. The nurses seem to do less work there. Some doctors say they are doing lots of unnecessary work and some which is not theirs....and yeah they are all more stressed up compared to the ones in HSNZ.
Had also the experience of my specialist asking me to do a peritoneal tap in a chronic liver disease patient. 1st time - ooo what honor.
Also had an opportunity to help a nurse get a manic state psy patient sit dwn for his injection. He later told me i cannot be trusted haha :P
My supervisor specialist told me not to go to clinic cos its a waste of time haha.
The turnover rate in the ward is very high - every day new patients are at the bed. This ward is the first stop ward. From here the patient is dx stabilized 1st line given then transferred to other proper wards or discharged.
At time one only can feel that HSNZ is much more in order and more systematized then HKL believe it or not but both has they pros and cons. HKL is not computerized not even partial.
Well to get into HKL - go to the website get the form from there, call them set a good repo and u wud get in. also depends on ur luck
HKL was a good experience.
HKL patient vise has of cos a greater variety coming from different creed compared to HSNZ. U got foreigners, malays indians and what not. Even the doctors also there are of all races. In addition you would come across suicide cases, homeless, jailbirds.
And of cos there is also a variety of diseases compared to HSNZ. I saw tetanus, reynauds. In the ward i was in is like a dumpster ward where all types of cases get admitted in there first only later distributed around to respective wards. So u can see psychiatric cases, GI cases incl hepatobiliary, even ortho. optha
Condition of ward HSNZ is better - less cramped, not like a market and not as hot. In HKL there are many cases of Hospital acquired pneumonia - whats there to wonder when it is so obvious that the ventilation is poor there. Also tak ceria, gloomy. One can faint there, so better have breakfast before work.
Doctors staff there are friendly and u wud get help when u ask. U can go anywhere provided ur basic courtesy is there to ask permission and greet. Altough they are nice better dont play around.
We meet other students from other uni who are also doing their electives there - AIMST, Liverpool, UPM, UKM - we did exchange a few words and stuff but they were busy with their own stuff.
What we do there is basically the same as what we do here in HSNZ - we followed ward rounds, clerked cases, did procedures (depends on ur supervisors) and sometimes helped doctors with some of their task including clerking and calling patients relatives.
Had the experience of helping a doctor to find a psychiatric patient next of kin by calling a list of number he gave. Yes - could have just called Jabatan Kebajikan but they wud take a week and more paperwork so to avoid that.... .
There the patient is seriously in you hands and you are expected to do everything for the patient. The nurses seem to do less work there. Some doctors say they are doing lots of unnecessary work and some which is not theirs....and yeah they are all more stressed up compared to the ones in HSNZ.
Had also the experience of my specialist asking me to do a peritoneal tap in a chronic liver disease patient. 1st time - ooo what honor.
Also had an opportunity to help a nurse get a manic state psy patient sit dwn for his injection. He later told me i cannot be trusted haha :P
My supervisor specialist told me not to go to clinic cos its a waste of time haha.
The turnover rate in the ward is very high - every day new patients are at the bed. This ward is the first stop ward. From here the patient is dx stabilized 1st line given then transferred to other proper wards or discharged.
At time one only can feel that HSNZ is much more in order and more systematized then HKL believe it or not but both has they pros and cons. HKL is not computerized not even partial.
Well to get into HKL - go to the website get the form from there, call them set a good repo and u wud get in. also depends on ur luck
HKL was a good experience.
On the Road I C U
There have been lots of bus accidents and some of them have been very tragic. People put the blame of the government and the bus companies but in the end no matter how for the accident to occur or not depends on the driver behind the wheel.
Nevertheless steps can be taken to at least minimize the risk or chances for an accident to occur.
I got one idea and perhaps my idea may already be in some1 else mind or perhaps in the shelves of the road transport ministry. My idea is as such :
Each bus has a speed detector. Whenever the bus driver breaks the speed limit an alarm maybe sounded to alert the driver and then a signal is sent over to the relevant authorities to take log of the speed break.
Each time a speed or warning is ignored it would be logged into the drivers portfolio and if it reaches a certain number he can get sacked and blacklisted.
By this method at least the drivers would really be afraid to break the rules. In addition this system can be managed by gov body.
This system perhaps can start on the buses on the hot routes then later go for all buses.
Nevertheless steps can be taken to at least minimize the risk or chances for an accident to occur.
I got one idea and perhaps my idea may already be in some1 else mind or perhaps in the shelves of the road transport ministry. My idea is as such :
Each bus has a speed detector. Whenever the bus driver breaks the speed limit an alarm maybe sounded to alert the driver and then a signal is sent over to the relevant authorities to take log of the speed break.
Each time a speed or warning is ignored it would be logged into the drivers portfolio and if it reaches a certain number he can get sacked and blacklisted.
By this method at least the drivers would really be afraid to break the rules. In addition this system can be managed by gov body.
This system perhaps can start on the buses on the hot routes then later go for all buses.
Thursday, October 7, 2010
my chairmancy .... kerusi !!!
Well, it's almost time for CSS's AGM(next week, July the 3rd). This means it is time to 'shoo' out the old committee and say 'hello' to the new ones. This also means that Gregory, the Kerusi, will be leaving CSS(and UCSI) for Kuala Terengganu. Before he leaves, cssucsi.blogspot.com sat down(in front of the computer) with him to discuss his tenure as President. Below is Part 1 of the fairly long chat...
1. Tell us about the beginning, how did you join CSS and how were you made the 1st President of CSS.
Well it was unexpected. I thought a CSS did not exist and i actually told Ivan there was none when he asked me. Then one day Ivan came up to me pula and said there was one and yup we were both excited.We went to one of the members house one night and realized it was a first gathering hahahaha. Both of us thought the group existed ages a go.. Ms June was leading the group and told us that contact has been made with Lifeline Ministry of SFX so we are hooked to themlah. Dunno how i got the first task to organize the following weeks' gatherings' activity and it was about Angels.
So as usual, I went back and got into business but unfortunately something came up and i did not attend that gathering but I passed my work and it was carried out together with a short movie screening and sharing too by the rest. After that about 6 gatherings or so were held and i attended only 1.Then came the exam and holiday season and no gatherings were held. To be honest i did not bother also because i myself was busy with medicine.
Then came a night where when i was walking back from UCSI to the condo i got a call from an unknown number. Uhmm who could it be?? I asked myself. Bah should be one of my classmates. Rupa rupanya it was Ms June. Ah maybe an invitation to join the next gathering. Tengok tengok 'Hey Greg can you take over this group!' she asked me. !!!! I declined and gave reasons for it and asked her too WHY ME??. (She only met me twice during those gatherings - so how can one know me??).
She said i was the first to pop up in her mind when thinking this. (?!?!??!) Ms June was sick and could not run the show. I told her i will think first.Hahaha - As i was thinking whether i can take over or not I was already planning how to set up CSS university level and join CMO. While contemplating on this issue i realized myself in ASAYO office asking how to set up a CSS when i was passing by Masjid Jamek one day, while on the way back to my kampung. Then I gathered some counterparts and then had a short meeting with Ms Jennifer from CMO in UCSI. The ball hence started rolling.
Forms to set up a society in UCSI were filled and complied too. Some research was done and we got to know that there are many Catholics around and we estimated bout 100. Ivan was a good fisherman and with his findings we decided to have an AGM. Well the turn out was poor and we realized our publicity was not strong enough so for the next 2 week we worked hard in publicity and the next AGM we saw 30 people turned out for it. Wohooo. And walla I became the first president. (I was still in contemplating mode haha).
Before all these events Fr. Valentine told Ivan and I that he wanted to see a CSS in UCSI. Hehe i did not feel wanting to take the initiative set up one also at that time. Guess his prayers were answered.Well God works in wonders and I was a Jonah here hahaha, finally stoped contemplating and said to myself "Woi!! You are the Pressie here and it is for a reason and a CSS is here also for a reason so get into business!!!". YOUR will be done. Without anymore hesitation i jumped into the building of the CSS here together with my new committee.
2. In the early part of CSS gathering, what were the obstacles that you faced as the President? Have these obstacles been resolved as you leave?
Well the first obstacles was getting everyone organized and 'into' CSS and that has been resolved and going well till now. Then it was finding a proper time to maximize the number of members and excos to attend each gathering. Won at times but till know it has not 100% resolved. UCSI timetables are not standardized and at every moment some one will either be having their exams, holidays or what so ever in uni. The number of attendance was fluctuating from as low as 4 to as high as 25 (normal gatherings excluding mass).
Next is people themselves who are difficult. Always give false hope and information hampering the EXCO's to do their job. Efficiency, responsibility, sincerity, sacrifice is quiet lacking as well as the will to explore and learn and to grow and mature in the faith. We are trying to change this through many ways but you know we only can bring the horse to the river but for it to drink is left up to the horse.
The other, is excuses, unreasonable ones....haish... . Well we cant force but we are still with our doors open and inside it there is much to gain which I feel bad as it is not reaching the members. The chances for a system itself not to work is about 30% the rest is human - 70%.
3. Tell us your best memory of CSS since it's birth almost one year ago.
The whole formation of setting up, carrying out and passing over CSS is an unforgettable memory itself.
Nothing specific in particular. Experiencing every moment to the fullest whether happy or sad are good memories.
4. If you could turn back time, what would you have changed in CSS?
Nothing. I am thankful with my committee members and saw every challenge as God's will and we are to go through it together. No regrets in this point. If it is not due to the past you would not have a future.Wanting to change the past in this mater is like not acknowledging one's mistake and not wanting to learn from it but wanting an easy way out to clear things. Not good.
5. How have each and every CSS committee grown since one year ago?
I feel all of them has learnt something of which you will have to ask them yourselves haha. However I believe they have become more mature by acquiring or brushing up their leadership skills and faith, becoming better. Nevertheless I also feel there are some who have missed out a bit haha. For me I have gained more experience in organization, PR and of course more knowledge of our faith through our gatherings which many have missed haha for not coming.
6. What do you want CSS members to benefit from the CSS gatherings? Are there aims or objectives for each gathering?
ATOMIC has its aims and objectives but basically we want the members to learn more about our faith in a higher level more than what has already been thought in church and the same time to form a circle of friends which will be quality witnesses of Christ in the university. Also to grow in faith together while being students trying to lead a Cristian life hence.
7. What do you think CSS needs the most and why? (money, members etc.)
It needs some sort of dedication and love in doing God's work and wanting to learn to really follow His ways and thus serving the people around. Thats what makes us different from all other societies (non-religious). The people in CSS will have to learn how to sacrifice a little. Jesus sacrificed himself for us, did he not? So why not we make some sacrifice too for the benefit of others. There is nothing to loose but only gains.
8. How did you feel after being thrown into the Angkasa swimming pool after the Easter party? haha - I have been thrown into many pools, many times before so it is not something new. But i was happy and touched and grateful to know that I have good friends around me. It was unexpected because i thought you guys were not into doing these kind of stuff. hahaha
9. As the outgoing president, do you have anything else to say to the new president?
Persevere, don't give up, pray and know that God is always with you. Be sincere in your duty, respect others and listen to your members and accommodate them and be their friend and not their boss. Run CSS as a family not as a corporate body. There will be ups and downs and it is not going to be easy so be strong and value those around you. Be responsible and learn to sacrifice and prioritize. To add - for the members pula - support your president because nowadays organization is no more a one way thing meaning it does not all lies in the hands of the leader. So the ups and downs of CSS lies also in the hands of the members too. Remember that CSS is not a corporate body or not like other societies, it is a family and it belongs to all. The leader is to drive you people safely and correctly to where you want to go collectively. I also feel that though with a small group make it a strong group, in faith and knowledge and friendship. The bulk will later come slowly. Lastly dont panic and stay cool and enjoy what you do
10. It must have been hard typing everything using CORRECT english grammar and so forth. (Haha...payback for all the emails you sent.) Anything to comment or justify to this?
I have no problem in my English - grammar and spelling. I type fast and i have many things to do so i don't check. Pardon me for that haha. For the many mails is because I don't have a computer myself and i do not know when i will get one then, so the moment something pops up my head and i want all to know i send a mail if not i forget too. Also i send many, is to inform all EXCO what is happening so later there would not be any excuse of not knowing what is going on. (Although the result is not 100%) Again this is not one way leadership. Everyone will have to know what others are doing only then it is easier to coordinate certain things while organizing stuff.
Last few words...of the very long chat...
I have enjoyed myself being the president or some would call me the Chair @ Kerusi hahaha (chairman) for the past one year. I have learnt a lot and made many friends within the university and also in other universities and without CSS i would not be able to do so. Without CSS i would not have a soul but might become more of a robot being churned out from the university. The experience gained i am very grateful and happy for, and i know that these experiences will definitely help me in future. I would like to take this opportunity to thank my EXCOs who are all good in their own ways and in their work. Sue, Bridgette, Byron, Ivan, Paul, Rebecca and the rest keep up the good work in the coming term and keep CSS alive.Lastly my sincere apologies if during my tenure as president i have hurt anyone through my actions or words.
Bon Voyage
1. Tell us about the beginning, how did you join CSS and how were you made the 1st President of CSS.
Well it was unexpected. I thought a CSS did not exist and i actually told Ivan there was none when he asked me. Then one day Ivan came up to me pula and said there was one and yup we were both excited.We went to one of the members house one night and realized it was a first gathering hahahaha. Both of us thought the group existed ages a go.. Ms June was leading the group and told us that contact has been made with Lifeline Ministry of SFX so we are hooked to themlah. Dunno how i got the first task to organize the following weeks' gatherings' activity and it was about Angels.
So as usual, I went back and got into business but unfortunately something came up and i did not attend that gathering but I passed my work and it was carried out together with a short movie screening and sharing too by the rest. After that about 6 gatherings or so were held and i attended only 1.Then came the exam and holiday season and no gatherings were held. To be honest i did not bother also because i myself was busy with medicine.
Then came a night where when i was walking back from UCSI to the condo i got a call from an unknown number. Uhmm who could it be?? I asked myself. Bah should be one of my classmates. Rupa rupanya it was Ms June. Ah maybe an invitation to join the next gathering. Tengok tengok 'Hey Greg can you take over this group!' she asked me. !!!! I declined and gave reasons for it and asked her too WHY ME??. (She only met me twice during those gatherings - so how can one know me??).
She said i was the first to pop up in her mind when thinking this. (?!?!??!) Ms June was sick and could not run the show. I told her i will think first.Hahaha - As i was thinking whether i can take over or not I was already planning how to set up CSS university level and join CMO. While contemplating on this issue i realized myself in ASAYO office asking how to set up a CSS when i was passing by Masjid Jamek one day, while on the way back to my kampung. Then I gathered some counterparts and then had a short meeting with Ms Jennifer from CMO in UCSI. The ball hence started rolling.
Forms to set up a society in UCSI were filled and complied too. Some research was done and we got to know that there are many Catholics around and we estimated bout 100. Ivan was a good fisherman and with his findings we decided to have an AGM. Well the turn out was poor and we realized our publicity was not strong enough so for the next 2 week we worked hard in publicity and the next AGM we saw 30 people turned out for it. Wohooo. And walla I became the first president. (I was still in contemplating mode haha).
Before all these events Fr. Valentine told Ivan and I that he wanted to see a CSS in UCSI. Hehe i did not feel wanting to take the initiative set up one also at that time. Guess his prayers were answered.Well God works in wonders and I was a Jonah here hahaha, finally stoped contemplating and said to myself "Woi!! You are the Pressie here and it is for a reason and a CSS is here also for a reason so get into business!!!". YOUR will be done. Without anymore hesitation i jumped into the building of the CSS here together with my new committee.
2. In the early part of CSS gathering, what were the obstacles that you faced as the President? Have these obstacles been resolved as you leave?
Well the first obstacles was getting everyone organized and 'into' CSS and that has been resolved and going well till now. Then it was finding a proper time to maximize the number of members and excos to attend each gathering. Won at times but till know it has not 100% resolved. UCSI timetables are not standardized and at every moment some one will either be having their exams, holidays or what so ever in uni. The number of attendance was fluctuating from as low as 4 to as high as 25 (normal gatherings excluding mass).
Next is people themselves who are difficult. Always give false hope and information hampering the EXCO's to do their job. Efficiency, responsibility, sincerity, sacrifice is quiet lacking as well as the will to explore and learn and to grow and mature in the faith. We are trying to change this through many ways but you know we only can bring the horse to the river but for it to drink is left up to the horse.
The other, is excuses, unreasonable ones....haish... . Well we cant force but we are still with our doors open and inside it there is much to gain which I feel bad as it is not reaching the members. The chances for a system itself not to work is about 30% the rest is human - 70%.
3. Tell us your best memory of CSS since it's birth almost one year ago.
The whole formation of setting up, carrying out and passing over CSS is an unforgettable memory itself.
Nothing specific in particular. Experiencing every moment to the fullest whether happy or sad are good memories.
4. If you could turn back time, what would you have changed in CSS?
Nothing. I am thankful with my committee members and saw every challenge as God's will and we are to go through it together. No regrets in this point. If it is not due to the past you would not have a future.Wanting to change the past in this mater is like not acknowledging one's mistake and not wanting to learn from it but wanting an easy way out to clear things. Not good.
5. How have each and every CSS committee grown since one year ago?
I feel all of them has learnt something of which you will have to ask them yourselves haha. However I believe they have become more mature by acquiring or brushing up their leadership skills and faith, becoming better. Nevertheless I also feel there are some who have missed out a bit haha. For me I have gained more experience in organization, PR and of course more knowledge of our faith through our gatherings which many have missed haha for not coming.
6. What do you want CSS members to benefit from the CSS gatherings? Are there aims or objectives for each gathering?
ATOMIC has its aims and objectives but basically we want the members to learn more about our faith in a higher level more than what has already been thought in church and the same time to form a circle of friends which will be quality witnesses of Christ in the university. Also to grow in faith together while being students trying to lead a Cristian life hence.
7. What do you think CSS needs the most and why? (money, members etc.)
It needs some sort of dedication and love in doing God's work and wanting to learn to really follow His ways and thus serving the people around. Thats what makes us different from all other societies (non-religious). The people in CSS will have to learn how to sacrifice a little. Jesus sacrificed himself for us, did he not? So why not we make some sacrifice too for the benefit of others. There is nothing to loose but only gains.
8. How did you feel after being thrown into the Angkasa swimming pool after the Easter party? haha - I have been thrown into many pools, many times before so it is not something new. But i was happy and touched and grateful to know that I have good friends around me. It was unexpected because i thought you guys were not into doing these kind of stuff. hahaha
9. As the outgoing president, do you have anything else to say to the new president?
Persevere, don't give up, pray and know that God is always with you. Be sincere in your duty, respect others and listen to your members and accommodate them and be their friend and not their boss. Run CSS as a family not as a corporate body. There will be ups and downs and it is not going to be easy so be strong and value those around you. Be responsible and learn to sacrifice and prioritize. To add - for the members pula - support your president because nowadays organization is no more a one way thing meaning it does not all lies in the hands of the leader. So the ups and downs of CSS lies also in the hands of the members too. Remember that CSS is not a corporate body or not like other societies, it is a family and it belongs to all. The leader is to drive you people safely and correctly to where you want to go collectively. I also feel that though with a small group make it a strong group, in faith and knowledge and friendship. The bulk will later come slowly. Lastly dont panic and stay cool and enjoy what you do
10. It must have been hard typing everything using CORRECT english grammar and so forth. (Haha...payback for all the emails you sent.) Anything to comment or justify to this?
I have no problem in my English - grammar and spelling. I type fast and i have many things to do so i don't check. Pardon me for that haha. For the many mails is because I don't have a computer myself and i do not know when i will get one then, so the moment something pops up my head and i want all to know i send a mail if not i forget too. Also i send many, is to inform all EXCO what is happening so later there would not be any excuse of not knowing what is going on. (Although the result is not 100%) Again this is not one way leadership. Everyone will have to know what others are doing only then it is easier to coordinate certain things while organizing stuff.
Last few words...of the very long chat...
I have enjoyed myself being the president or some would call me the Chair @ Kerusi hahaha (chairman) for the past one year. I have learnt a lot and made many friends within the university and also in other universities and without CSS i would not be able to do so. Without CSS i would not have a soul but might become more of a robot being churned out from the university. The experience gained i am very grateful and happy for, and i know that these experiences will definitely help me in future. I would like to take this opportunity to thank my EXCOs who are all good in their own ways and in their work. Sue, Bridgette, Byron, Ivan, Paul, Rebecca and the rest keep up the good work in the coming term and keep CSS alive.Lastly my sincere apologies if during my tenure as president i have hurt anyone through my actions or words.
Bon Voyage
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