I have an idealah something for the CSS to use as a guide especially in conducting their activities. Its to set up some modules or database well structured and documented which would be updated time to time and at the same time shared for all CSS to refer to to conduct their activities. Currently what i see that is strongly present in the church is faith formation through the bible which is the foremost important but it lacks the other elements to support and reinforce this formation.
Therefore is suggest to create these modules :
faith - bible
faith - education (history, catechism)
faith - social-science (social justice, politics)
faith - anthropology (religion, culture)
Catholic moral teachings
in each module would include topics, support material, activities.
having these modules perhaps the css would be well guided and its students well formed. Sadly to say there are CSS leaders themselves who do not know the faith and the knowledge of it, if so how can they lead the members effectively in faith? To come up with activities also thy would pecah kepala and worst still dunno what to do.
Perhaps this would be a great project for KLCC to undertake and in future maintain and function as what and how should a council do.
Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
When i say i am a Christian
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not shouting "I'm clean living.'"
I'm whispering "I was lost,
Now I'm found and forgiven."
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
and need Christ to be my guide.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I'm weak
And need His strength to carry on.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed
And need God to clean my mess.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not claiming to be perfect,
My flaws are far too visible
But, God believes I am worth it.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I still feel the sting of pain.
I have my share of heartaches
So I call upon His name.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not holier than thou,
I'm just a simple sinner
Who received God's good grace, somehow!
Christians - By Maya Angelou
I'm not shouting "I'm clean living.'"
I'm whispering "I was lost,
Now I'm found and forgiven."
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
and need Christ to be my guide.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I'm weak
And need His strength to carry on.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed
And need God to clean my mess.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not claiming to be perfect,
My flaws are far too visible
But, God believes I am worth it.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I still feel the sting of pain.
I have my share of heartaches
So I call upon His name.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not holier than thou,
I'm just a simple sinner
Who received God's good grace, somehow!
Christians - By Maya Angelou
Thursday, August 12, 2010
Fitting shoes
I promoted Matin Jallel's session to a protestants friend cos i am trying to be a bit optimistic about the result and it ended up with him asking me why do we confess our sins to the priest and why not direct to God. And also God as died for all our sins and freed us from it so why have it?
Well i m no smart ass to be able to answer intelligently so i answered accocding to what i know.
Well i said it is in the bible that this sacrement is instituted from of which he denied obviously then i said we read the same bible then how come u have not seen it?
Anyway going to a priest and confessing, the priest is the medium of which God has given power to execute his function here after Jesus left and Jesus forgave sins and he has told his Apostles to do so as well. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11618c.htm
Not being so good with the bible tried to put some psycology in it where when u go to someone to confess ur sins esp to a man of God u come clean, naked, all the gravest sins u r saying direclty to a human being not robot or air who as just as u feelings and a mind and a perception which can deduce. Therefore going 'naked' in front of a human u are ought to be off brave, humbled, humuliated of the sins you have done thus it has shown u have forgiven yourself and thus asking pardon from God of which a priest is carrying out that duty here on earth. The priest on behalf of God in word for a human can hear says u r forgiven. What feeling would u have?
Compare it to sitting queitly at a corner and talking to God saying i am sorry. Like or not we being humans, sinners thus not perfect is like going to a tree and telling ur sins to it and pleasing urself telling urself the tree has forgiven me. well of cos i am not saying God is a treelah. What feeling would you experienced here? compare?
well again i was bombarded with the same question and we ended up in circles but good thing is he told me to provided evidence and i hapily did with the website link given above. after reading a few line in which he himself said he did he quickly said these references are from other books ( u check yourself ya wat are those books in that link). I just told him continue to read.
Anyway i have noticed one thing here. Perception and understanding. He was trying to understand this sacrement from the perpective on a protestant. It cant work for protestant dont believe in it in the first place and only has teaching against it on which lies his basis on arguments. He is like talking great about road A to destination C without even using road B to C and talks against road B. is it fair for an argument?
Now comes the intention of this argument. there is no listening. dahlah i dunno how to express in beutiful words like how that link descibes confession what not to even try to make into simpler terms to explain to him...i muntah darah kena tmebak till dunno how to explain d(my bad). So since i cant explain fully i sort of lost lor and he happy thinking that well the church is wrong and stupid to potong jalan btw God and ME.
C ar.... in dialogues the intention is to understand one another and come to exceptance of why the other believes so. In the end its either u except or not and also u want to follow it or not. simple.
therfore if he would want to understand why we have this confession thing he has to see it from the catholic perspetive and understand it. He has to use the B road himself and then make the choice btw A n B.
Id this does not occur then till world ends the arguments would continue to go in circles and we become fools.
In addition dialogues are not to determine who is right and and who is wrong. When the choice is made is just based upon how one can except the others understanding and follow it. If according to the persons upbringing, mentality, his own maturity find the catholic church does not fit into his perception of God then of cos that understanding would be rejected but not wrong.
The breakdwn which is causes problem is that people dunnow how to understand, dunno how to make a choice and how a choice is made (factors involved). They want a right or wrong answers and of cos they want to always be the right one (how can they not be right, right?)and it ends up with fighting..... so ends the dialogues, ecumenism etc etc. (me n my fren din fight)
Also not to forget when u come to a dialogue with a question u cant have a preset answer sheeth in the head. mind should be open. Too many cross questioning takes both parties no where but making fools out of each other. And too many of it just makes u more of a person who does not want to listen to you but wants to make u loose.
A third party guy (taouist)understood what i was explaining but he could not comment cos he was smart he said i do not know the basis of the argument as in how ot argue whatever.
An example. Doctor patient. Patient ask doctor what happen and what have you done and why the treatment in such doctor explains as he dutied too. then patient questions how come cos this is not what i read in the papers (in this case the doctor is correct in his treatment and management), so the doctor again explains a lil bit deeper in science why. but the patient is adamant due to the difference in approach (the paper and doctor) and continues to question the doctor. Now the doctor can explain but the dept has become to deep and wide as so for the patient to understand fully the patient has to go to medical school to understand. Now the patient can question and should question but have some understandment. the understanding that there are many approaches to manage a patient and according to patient the best is suited and what best suits the patient the doctor knows and of cos the paper cant tell everything if not that would become a medical book.
Such a patient gives an impression that he is just not satisfied with what the doctor did since he has come with a fixed mind based on a paper what should be done and he believes so much in the paper despite all the poor doctors efforts he is not satisfied. Then he goes out to give wrong impression about this doctor and to other patients about treatment and management so much so some patients come in saying if they operate my shoulder i can go paralysed! Some even said after u go surgery you wont live long. And on the other side this is also why doctors get angry being humans tells the patient of 'saya doctor ka u doctor?'.
Even when want to complain think 1st. Dont just let your mouth loose. Fit into the other persons shoes and ask why and is it reasonable or not to go and complain and are my questions i put out in arguments and dialogues fair or not, logic or reasonable or not.
Well i m no smart ass to be able to answer intelligently so i answered accocding to what i know.
Well i said it is in the bible that this sacrement is instituted from of which he denied obviously then i said we read the same bible then how come u have not seen it?
Anyway going to a priest and confessing, the priest is the medium of which God has given power to execute his function here after Jesus left and Jesus forgave sins and he has told his Apostles to do so as well. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11618c.htm
Not being so good with the bible tried to put some psycology in it where when u go to someone to confess ur sins esp to a man of God u come clean, naked, all the gravest sins u r saying direclty to a human being not robot or air who as just as u feelings and a mind and a perception which can deduce. Therefore going 'naked' in front of a human u are ought to be off brave, humbled, humuliated of the sins you have done thus it has shown u have forgiven yourself and thus asking pardon from God of which a priest is carrying out that duty here on earth. The priest on behalf of God in word for a human can hear says u r forgiven. What feeling would u have?
Compare it to sitting queitly at a corner and talking to God saying i am sorry. Like or not we being humans, sinners thus not perfect is like going to a tree and telling ur sins to it and pleasing urself telling urself the tree has forgiven me. well of cos i am not saying God is a treelah. What feeling would you experienced here? compare?
well again i was bombarded with the same question and we ended up in circles but good thing is he told me to provided evidence and i hapily did with the website link given above. after reading a few line in which he himself said he did he quickly said these references are from other books ( u check yourself ya wat are those books in that link). I just told him continue to read.
Anyway i have noticed one thing here. Perception and understanding. He was trying to understand this sacrement from the perpective on a protestant. It cant work for protestant dont believe in it in the first place and only has teaching against it on which lies his basis on arguments. He is like talking great about road A to destination C without even using road B to C and talks against road B. is it fair for an argument?
Now comes the intention of this argument. there is no listening. dahlah i dunno how to express in beutiful words like how that link descibes confession what not to even try to make into simpler terms to explain to him...i muntah darah kena tmebak till dunno how to explain d(my bad). So since i cant explain fully i sort of lost lor and he happy thinking that well the church is wrong and stupid to potong jalan btw God and ME.
C ar.... in dialogues the intention is to understand one another and come to exceptance of why the other believes so. In the end its either u except or not and also u want to follow it or not. simple.
therfore if he would want to understand why we have this confession thing he has to see it from the catholic perspetive and understand it. He has to use the B road himself and then make the choice btw A n B.
Id this does not occur then till world ends the arguments would continue to go in circles and we become fools.
In addition dialogues are not to determine who is right and and who is wrong. When the choice is made is just based upon how one can except the others understanding and follow it. If according to the persons upbringing, mentality, his own maturity find the catholic church does not fit into his perception of God then of cos that understanding would be rejected but not wrong.
The breakdwn which is causes problem is that people dunnow how to understand, dunno how to make a choice and how a choice is made (factors involved). They want a right or wrong answers and of cos they want to always be the right one (how can they not be right, right?)and it ends up with fighting..... so ends the dialogues, ecumenism etc etc. (me n my fren din fight)
Also not to forget when u come to a dialogue with a question u cant have a preset answer sheeth in the head. mind should be open. Too many cross questioning takes both parties no where but making fools out of each other. And too many of it just makes u more of a person who does not want to listen to you but wants to make u loose.
A third party guy (taouist)understood what i was explaining but he could not comment cos he was smart he said i do not know the basis of the argument as in how ot argue whatever.
An example. Doctor patient. Patient ask doctor what happen and what have you done and why the treatment in such doctor explains as he dutied too. then patient questions how come cos this is not what i read in the papers (in this case the doctor is correct in his treatment and management), so the doctor again explains a lil bit deeper in science why. but the patient is adamant due to the difference in approach (the paper and doctor) and continues to question the doctor. Now the doctor can explain but the dept has become to deep and wide as so for the patient to understand fully the patient has to go to medical school to understand. Now the patient can question and should question but have some understandment. the understanding that there are many approaches to manage a patient and according to patient the best is suited and what best suits the patient the doctor knows and of cos the paper cant tell everything if not that would become a medical book.
Such a patient gives an impression that he is just not satisfied with what the doctor did since he has come with a fixed mind based on a paper what should be done and he believes so much in the paper despite all the poor doctors efforts he is not satisfied. Then he goes out to give wrong impression about this doctor and to other patients about treatment and management so much so some patients come in saying if they operate my shoulder i can go paralysed! Some even said after u go surgery you wont live long. And on the other side this is also why doctors get angry being humans tells the patient of 'saya doctor ka u doctor?'.
Even when want to complain think 1st. Dont just let your mouth loose. Fit into the other persons shoes and ask why and is it reasonable or not to go and complain and are my questions i put out in arguments and dialogues fair or not, logic or reasonable or not.
Crisis
As the world gets more 'civilized', more modern, so do our way of thinking as well. It has developed from shut up and listen to independent thinking. This has brought us both good and bad to mankind. We know the good but lets look at the bad. This new ways of thinking has also developed new schools of thought@ modern life philosophies and it has in a bad way brought up a crisis among us. the crisis that that is in effect is the crisis of truth and relativism where truth is what u think is right, constructivism where new logic is thought over what u think is right. Compartmentalization where u life is divided and not connected - sort of physical split personality. culture of death as in abortion, euthanasia etc which is alright and finally the crisis of family life - gays, lesbians and divorcees. \\
As Christian or better said as Catholics because for protestants we r all saved d just wait to die and got to heaven provided we become their member. As Catholics being part of the bigger church is being challenged to live a life full of these crisis. The church is firm and strong as rock on its stand and doctrines and modern thinking condemns it as not being realistic. Modern thinking has shallow depth of knowledge and intelligence of people and has made them forget and more selfish cos they have become blinded to what would happen of their actions in the future of which the church has clearly seen and trying to stop it but could not hold it back all effectively.
As God has always reminded his people over the centuries through prophets and Jesus Himself the church is still doing so but people are just not listening.
The protestants on the other hand (some of them) are succumbing to the whims on humans and selling out the diving truth abandoning it tough some of them are following behind the catholic church.
I grew up knowing right and wrong and then i came out and believed there were lots of gray but soon i cam back to tell myself i cant live in grey matter! There is right and wrong! The divine truth if pure truth and its is not something which can be turned grey! the gray line is thin! not as broad as the sea. Lots of people dont see this and cant except this cos when they do they ego (pride with no substance) collapses like a wall of cards! There has no foundation built in people nowadays due to the modernization of mind so much so everyone fears to loose or loose out, fall. Malu! Unfortunately too many of them so they gang up make their own constructed relativism and life their truth and challenge the divine truth.
Protestants on the other hand run away from these challenges live in cocoons not going out there just as Jesus and His apostles did, keeps God to themselves and gives pittance in the form of their charity works to the community. But the catholic boldly and directly faces these challenges even with its own human weaknesses in it stand up tall and tells the world God's message. Wat beauty. Many would call it stupidity or foolishness.
Ask yourselves what would the world would become off in future? Who would stand beside us if not God and his church? How should we live in this world. Simple. Put God in life 1st.
the content proper is from a talk and the speaker quotes from Pope JP11
As Christian or better said as Catholics because for protestants we r all saved d just wait to die and got to heaven provided we become their member. As Catholics being part of the bigger church is being challenged to live a life full of these crisis. The church is firm and strong as rock on its stand and doctrines and modern thinking condemns it as not being realistic. Modern thinking has shallow depth of knowledge and intelligence of people and has made them forget and more selfish cos they have become blinded to what would happen of their actions in the future of which the church has clearly seen and trying to stop it but could not hold it back all effectively.
As God has always reminded his people over the centuries through prophets and Jesus Himself the church is still doing so but people are just not listening.
The protestants on the other hand (some of them) are succumbing to the whims on humans and selling out the diving truth abandoning it tough some of them are following behind the catholic church.
I grew up knowing right and wrong and then i came out and believed there were lots of gray but soon i cam back to tell myself i cant live in grey matter! There is right and wrong! The divine truth if pure truth and its is not something which can be turned grey! the gray line is thin! not as broad as the sea. Lots of people dont see this and cant except this cos when they do they ego (pride with no substance) collapses like a wall of cards! There has no foundation built in people nowadays due to the modernization of mind so much so everyone fears to loose or loose out, fall. Malu! Unfortunately too many of them so they gang up make their own constructed relativism and life their truth and challenge the divine truth.
Protestants on the other hand run away from these challenges live in cocoons not going out there just as Jesus and His apostles did, keeps God to themselves and gives pittance in the form of their charity works to the community. But the catholic boldly and directly faces these challenges even with its own human weaknesses in it stand up tall and tells the world God's message. Wat beauty. Many would call it stupidity or foolishness.
Ask yourselves what would the world would become off in future? Who would stand beside us if not God and his church? How should we live in this world. Simple. Put God in life 1st.
the content proper is from a talk and the speaker quotes from Pope JP11
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